Roy Rounder Tips

[WinJStar]

You all ever look at Roy Rounder tips? Good stuff.


These are the top ten most EXPENSIVE mistakes made in
poker... mistakes that YOU are probably making RIGHT NOW.

Let's go through them one-by-one... and learn how to FIX
them immediately.


MISTAKE #1: Playing Too Many Hands

Most poker players are too loose with their starting hand
selection. You've got to stick with PREMIUM hands...
especially when you're at a 8-man or 10-man table.

Quit limping in with bad cards in hopes of hitting something
on the flop. All those blinds add up... and it's not worth
it.

At an 8-player table, focus on playing hands like pocket
pairs, suited connectors, A-X suited, or two face cards.

Leave hands like K-3, J-8, Q-2, and 10-7 alone. Just fold
them pre-flop.

The REASON most people play too many hands is because they
want ACTION. They don't want to just sit and there and wait
forever until they get good cards.

But if you want to win, you must be patient.

In fact... if you're playing good poker, you should often be
bored. That's right: BORED.


MISTAKE #2: Playing Your Position Wrong

Positioning is EVERYTHING in Texas Holdem poker.

Good positioning means you get to see what your opponents do
FIRST before you have to act. Based on their behavior and
betting, you can make an informed decision about what YOU
want to do.

Good positioning is LATE positioning. That means you're one
of the last to act after the flop. The most IDEAL position
is the dealer (or button).

The mistake most players make is playing the CARDS without
considering their positioning. For instance, the way to play
pocket Aces in the big blind is totally different than the
way to play it in the dealer position.

And that goes for all starting hands... and all positions.

The basic strategy you need to know is that you want to play
MORE starting hands from a later position. And you want to
play these hands more aggressively.

Most of your bluffs should come with good positioning too...
because that's when you'll have the best read on the players
at the table.

In early positioning you want to play FEWER hands.
Especially when you're immediately to the left of the big
blind (also known as "under the gun").


MISTAKE #3: Thinking You're A "Natural"

It's amazing how often I hear someone say, "I'm a natural
poker player..."

What IS a "natural" poker player anyway?

The truth is, poker is an extremely complex and
multi-faceted game. It involves math, psychology, body
language skills, self control, performing under pressure,
and a ton of other things.

The problem with thinking you're a "natural"-- just because
you're good at reading people's faces or something-- is that
it LIMITS your ability to improve.

No matter how good you are at poker, there is ALWAYS room
for improvement. And in each respective area of the game,
there's ALWAYS more to learn.

Not only that, but poker has been around for a LONG time...
way before it started appearing on every TV station.

A lot of poker strategy has been DEVELOPED. There are
step-by-step techniques, tricks, and "plays" that you can
use to win more money at the tables.

These strategies won't just "come to you" like a little
light bulb over your head.

Not a chance.

Instead, you've got to STUDY the game, talk to other
players, and be constantly LEARNING more in order to push
yourself to the next level.


MISTAKE #4: Getting Too Emotional

Emotional control is a big part of Holdem. You've got to be
able to "let go" and become unattached from the outcome of
the game.

The REASON emotions run strong in poker is because your
mixing MONEY, EGO, and CHANCE... all together.

It's DEFINITELY a recipe for some strong emotions.

The key is to EXPECT IN ADVANCE that things will get
stressful and intense. EXPECT that you're going to get
"rivered" and "sucked out".

The reason it's important is because if you let go of your
logic and start playing based on EMOTION, you'll never, EVER
win.

Avoid TILT at all costs. It causes more poker players to go
broke than any other phenomenon.

Stay in control of yourself and be "unattached" to the game.
Don't let anything affect you... just remain focused on
winning.

Period.


MISTAKE #5 Playing The Wrong Stakes

The stakes you play is what determines the SKILL you play
against.

And if you're outmatched, nothing else matters... because
ultimately you're going to lose.

But if you're way better than everyone at your current
level, then maybe it's time to "step it up a notch".

Playing the RIGHT stakes is a delicate balance.

I've found the most effective way to determine the RIGHT
stakes is to calculate your profit per hour over time.

The difference in your "profit per hour" at a $5 Sit and Go
versus a $10 Sit and Go can be DRAMATIC.

But you may get WHOMPED at the $20 Sit and Go... and lose
your bankroll in a snap.

Here's an important tip...

When you try to move UP in stakes, don't be afraid to move
BACK DOWN if it isn't working.

The action plan I recommend is to build your bankroll where
you KNOW you can win... then move up. If you lose your
bankroll, move back down and build it up again. Then move up
in stakes and try it again.

Repeat this process over and over and you'll be continually
improving... moving up to bigger games and more money.

This process also LOWERS YOUR RISK. Follow those steps and
you won't be gambling with next month's rent.


MISTAKE #6: Focusing Too Much On The Cards

Always remember this principle:

PLAY THE PLAYER, NOT THE CARDS.

Ultimately, the cards determine who's the winner for a
hand... but that's only when a hand plays out until the VERY
END and all cards are flipped over.

GOOD poker players hardly ever make it to that level in a
hand. Because they either force their opponents to fold or
fold because they pick up a read on their opponents.

The only times you should be flipping your cards up at the
end is when you KNOW you have the best hand and you've just
milked some sucker for a huge pot.

Get it?

The PLAYER you're up against is what you need to focus on.
Not your cards.

Figure out his betting patterns, his habits, his tells, his
movements... EVERYTHING. And then play him like a fiddle for
all his chips.


MISTAKE #7: Being Too Predictable

Just as you should be studying your opponents, your
opponents should be studying YOU.

The biggest mistake you can make is become PREDICTABLE. When
you're predictable, you can't win at poker.

Because every time you get good cards, everyone will fold.
And every time you get bad cards, everyone will bet.

The key is to BE AWARE OF YOUR BETTING PATTERNS.

Bet strong hands a certain way for awhile... then mix it up
a bit. Do crazy things... bet odd amounts... make the same
pre-flop raise for both 8-7 suited and pocket 10's.
Whatever.

MIX IT UP and kill any consistencies that appear in your
game.


Mistake #8: Not Knowing When To Quit

Know when to get up from a table... it will save you a LOT
of money over the long term.

This is crucial when you've either just WON a ton of money
or just LOST a ton of money.

Because in either case, the tendency from that point forward
is going to be to LOSE. You'll either lose your profits or
dig yourself in a hole deeper... but either way, it's not
good.

Losing streaks suck... because they take hold of some weird
part of your brain that virtually always PREVENTS you from
making a comeback.

No matter how determined you are... no matter how SURE you
are that your "luck" will change... it's not going to
happen. You'll lose more. So just STOP.

With winning streaks, it's the same way. Having a lot of
"new money" makes it less REAL... and there's a tendency to
lose it quickly on stupid moves.

So if you're WAY UP or WAY DOWN in a game, just stop playing
for the day. Go back at it tomorrow, it's no big deal.


MISTAKE #9: Not Knowing The Odds

Knowing the ODDS and PROBABILITY in poker is a standard
ingredient for success.

You can win some games just by being able to read your
opponents and "guess" at what types of betting decisions to
make...

But ultimately, knowing the odds is what it takes to be a
REAL Texas Holdem poker player.

The good news is, you don't have to be a "math genius" to
know the odds of a hand. There are a lot of shortcuts and
tricks you can use to calculate pot odds, hand percentages,
outs, and other important numbers.


MISTAKE #10: Not Getting Help

Like I said before, you weren't BORN knowing how to play
poker.

You had to LEARN it.

In every aspect of the game, you've got to continually ask
yourself the question, "Is this EXACTLY what I should be
doing in this situation?"

The absolute FASTEST way to improve your skills is to use an
odds calculator WHILE YOU PLAY online poker.

[mrkromer]

Good old Roy, always bringing the knowledge...

mike

[redsoxguy84]

i feel offended by mistake #1

[StevieJS]

Wow !

This guy is a rocket scientist

[WinJStar]

How To Represent The Flop



You're probably familiar with the term "represent the flop".
But do you know what it REALLY means?

And do you know how to PROPERLY represent the flop in order
to win more chips?

Most players think that REPRESENTING THE FLOP just means
betting and acting in a way as if the cards on the board
HELPED your hand...

Although this definition is ACCURATE, it's much too
simplistic to add any benefit to your game.

Representing the flop is in fact a very in-depth strategy
that is CRUCIAL to pro-level Texas Holdem poker...

First, let's look at WHY you should represent the flop:

The primary reason is to find out WHERE YOU'RE AT IN A HAND.

In other words, you want to learn how strong and how weak
the OTHER players at the table are. And the only way to do
this is through BETTING.

If you only check, check, call, call... then you will NEVER
become a good poker player. Never.

You've got to bet... and PRETEND that the community cards
helped you. If someone has a weak hand, they will be forced
to fold.

If someone has a mediocre hand, they will probably fold
too... because you're "representing" that you have something
good.

And if a player has a STRONG or VERY STRONG hand, they will
either call you or raise your bet.

So based on what everyone does, you can find out if you have
a chance at winning the pot, if you can bet other players
out, or if you should just fold. All information you
WOULDN'T have known otherwise.

Frequently representing the flop is an AGGRESSIVE style of
play. If you do it, you'll get a lot of action at the
table... especially after the flop.

For example, if you come out firing after the flop three out
of four hands, your opponents will begin calling your bets
and giving you action... because they KNOW you don't have a
great hand EVERY SINGLE TIME.

This comes in handy when you hit a MONSTER... like when you
flop a set or a flush or something. You don't have to worry
about everyone folding to you.

But even more important than getting lots of action,
representing the flop will help you STEAL a lot of pots over
the course of every card game.

And when YOU control the action and the betting, you'll find
it much easier to steal blinds and pots after the flop.

And trust me, THESE SMALL POTS ADD UP... FAST. If you only
go for the "big pots" in a poker game or tournament, you
won't last long. You've got to stick your neck out there and
go for the SMALLER POTS too...

OK, so representing the flop is a USEFUL and IMPORTANT TOOL
in no-limit Texas Holdem poker.

Now you've got to learn how to represent the flop the RIGHT
WAY...

I have FIVE BASIC RULES when it comes to representing the
flop... each rule gets progressively more complicated as
they go on.

But trust me, if you master these rules, you'll DEFINITELY
be on your way to higher "poker profits" and winnings.

OK, so here they are. These are my FIVE RULES:


RULE #1: When you represent the flop, don't act weak by only
betting the MINIMUM amount... BUT, don't bet so much that it
can burn you.

This is kind of like the "not too hot, not too cold"
principle.

You see... when you represent the flop, you've got to accept
the fact that you will likely NOT get the chips back that
you're betting.

I mean, obviously you want to WIN, don't get me wrong. BUT,
if someone has a great hand and you're representing the flop
WITHOUT a great hand, then there's a good chance you'll have
to fold soon.

So when you make a representation bet, do NOT bet so much
that you'll feel "pot committed".

On the other hand, don't bet too LITTLE. When you bet too
little, your opponents will see right through it. And it
won't be enough to scare the mediocre hands away.

For example... let's say you've got 9-8 suited and the flop
hits K-8-2 and you're first to act. You don't want to CHECK
because you know the guy after you will bet if you do.

So you REPRESENT THE FLOP by throwing out a bet...

If no one has the King, everyone will probably fold to your
bet. Even if someone DOES have the King, they may fold if
they don't have a decent kicker.

The key is you must make sure you BET ENOUGH. If you only
bet the minimum amount here... someone with A-4 might call
the bet, simply because the pot odds are in their favor. And
if the Ace hits on the turn, you're in trouble.

So always be sure to bet BIG ENOUGH to scare out the bad and
mediocre hands, but SMALL ENOUGH to not get in trouble if
you lose the chips.


RULE #2: Whenever possible, represent the flop when you have
OUTS.

This is a strategy most players don't quite "get" until
you've been playing poker for a LONG time.

Here's the thing:

If you represent the flop frequently every single time you
play Texas Holdem, you want the odds to be as much in your
favor as possible.

In the scenario above, for instance, representing the flop
with middle pair is a good move. Because you have some OUTS.
If another 8 hits on the turn or river, you're going to have
three-of-a-kind.

Obviously, hitting the eight is NOT likely (about 8.42%).
But there's STILL A CHANCE, and that's what is important.

Think about it:

Let's say you have just a 5% chance of hitting one of your
OUTS that would cause you to have the best hand at the
table.

Well, if you represent the flop fifty times and get a caller
TWENTY times, that means you'll MAKE your hand (on average)
one time out of these twenty. And when you DO make your
hand, you'll BUST your opponent and win a ton of chips.

Make sense?

This is kind of a MENTAL DISTINCTION that separates the pros
from the wannabes. Pros think about the LONG TERM ODDS of
playing. They don't base their decisions on situational
circumstances alone. They base them on WHAT WORKS OVER THE
LONG TERM.

That's how you develop a CONSISTENT winning career.

Because as you'll see in the next rule, you don't want to
CONTINUE to represent the flop if people stay in the hand
with you... unless you're confident that you can get them to
fold.

But usually, if someone calls or raises, you want to "let
up". Don't risk more chips when someone's got you beat.

So by representing the flop when you have OUTS you'll open
yourself up to the chance of MAKING YOUR HAND on the turn
(or sometimes river).


RULE #3: If you get raised, muck it.

All of these rules are general in nature... especially this
one. Obviously you don't want to ALWAYS FOLD every time
someone makes a raise.

BUT USUALLY, if you represent the flop with a bet and
someone comes back over the top of you, that opponent will
MOST LIKELY have a strong hand (maybe even a monster).

It's not logical to continue to bluff at the pot if you're
up against a surefire winning hand. You'll lose too many
chips that way.

That's the downside of being an aggressive player: You've
got to give up and cut your losses quite often. Discipline
yourself to do it.


RULE #4: Change gears with your betting amounts.

As we discussed earlier, one of the benefits to representing
the flop is that opponents will give you more ACTION during
the game because they'll "catch on" to your aggressive
style.

That does NOT mean, however, that you should become
PREDICTABLE. Being predictable is a recipe for disaster.

And that's why you've got to "change gears" and "mix it up"
with your betting.

For example... in our scenario where you made a bet with
your 9-8 suited (middle pair), let's say your bet was for 50
and then someone RAISED YOU to 200.

Your opponent probably has the King and a good kicker...
maybe even two pair. So you fold your middle pair with a
loss of only 50 chips.

NOW... when you fold, everyone at the table will SEE that
you just made a bet and then folded to a raise. This will
tell them that you were betting WITHOUT a good hand after
the flop.

Now... let's say a few hands later the flop comes out 5-A-Q
and you're second to act and you've got pocket deuces.

Your first opponent checks.

Now, although you know someone at the table probably has you
beat right now, you're not sure if someone has the Ace...
because there weren't any pre-flop raises.

So you REPRESENT THE FLOP (and the Ace) by betting.
(Remember, you also have outs here... if a two comes you'll
make trips.)

The key is to NOT BET 50 again, as you did with your eights
just a few hands ago. If you bet 50 again... or always bet
50 when you represent the flop... your opponents will know
exactly what you're doing and read right through you.

If Blake... who's sitting to your left... is only holding
the Queen, he's going to fold if he thinks you've got the
Ace.

But if he thinks you're just REPRESENTING the flop, he will
call your bet. And you DO NOT want that to happen (because
his Queens are better than your two's).

So instead of betting 50 again, you bet 150 this time. This
way you stay out of any PATTERNS that will give away your
hand... and increase the odds that everyone will put you on
the Ace and fold.


RULE #5: After you get better at representing the flop,
INTENTIONALLY STOP mixing up your bets in order to trap your
opponents.

This is a "tricky" play that works very well against
intermediate poker players.

Here's how it goes:

When you represent the flop and get "caught" in your
semi-bluff, use the event to YOUR ADVANTAGE to bust your
opponents.

Let's use the example from before with the 9-8 suited:

You got middle pair. You bet 50. Your opponent raised. And
then you folded.

Well, let's say you represented the flop AGAIN a few hands
later with a bet of 50. And then you got caught AGAIN when
your opponent raised you... and you were forced to fold.

After watching this happen two or three times, your
opponents will suddenly think they're geniuses and that
they've got you "figured out".

They'll think, "Woa, when he bets 50 on the flop he doesn't
have anything... and all I have to do is raise in order to
scare him away."

And of course, you're doing this ON PURPOSE in order to trap
your opponents.

Let's say a few hands later you get dealt pocket fours. The
flop comes: 4-7-J.

You've flopped trips. Now what?

Well, since you've built a reputation for betting on the
flop no matter what happens, you can feel safe betting and
you'll probably get action.

But what KIND of action are you looking for?

You want to get as many chips into this pot as possible. So
you take advantage of the "trap play" that you've created
and you bet 50... again.

This time, your opponents think they've got you figured out.
They think to themselves, "That flop didn't help him one
bit, he's just up to his old ways."

So your opponent RAISES you.

And that's where you GET REWARDED for the trap you set up.

Now you can either re-raise, or maybe call and hope that
your opponent tries buying the pot again after the turn
card...

It doesn't really matter. Because as long as there aren't
any draws out there, you can feel safe in knowing that
you'll win the hand and a nice pot either way.

It's amazing to me how easily players will fall into this
trap. (Especially with online poker.)

But remember... only use this trap play AFTER you have
mastered the first four rules for representing the flop. And
be sure that you aim the play at intermediate players, as
they'll fall for it the quickest.

There's one last component I want to mention here that
relates to our discussion of representing the flop... and
that's what you should do when you make a PRE-flop raise.

My technique is simple:

If I raised before the flop, I will come out betting AFTER
the flop... no matter what hits.

The reasoning is simple...

For starters, NOT betting after the flop is like waving a
red flag and TELLING your opponents that the flop didn't
help you.

If you represent the flop after your pre-flop raise, your
opponents won't know what to put you on. They'll be more
likely to fold.

And using this strategy over and over and over again pays
off in the long run. Because after awhile your opponents
will catch on...

And this benefits you in three ways:

1. You'll get more action when you catch a BIG hand.

2. Your opponents will fold more frequently to your pre-flop
raises because they know you're going to bet after the flop
as well. This gives you the opportunity to steal more
blinds.

3. Your opponents will be easier to read. When they have a
good hand they won't be afraid of you and they'll come back
over the top with a raise...

This lets you know that they've got you beat and that you
should just minimize your losses and fold.

Learning how to PROPERLY represent the flop is a crucial
aspect of Texas Holdem...

[WinJStar]

A Sneaky Way To Improve Your Positioning

The dealer position (known as the "button") is the best
position at the poker table.

The reason is because when you're on the button, you get to
act LAST after the flop... giving you the chance to see what
your opponents do first.

This lets you get a "read" on your opponents at the table...
and decide who has a strong hand, who has a weak hand, who's
bluffing, and so on.

OK, so that's common knowledge.

What's also common knowledge is the fact that LATE
POSITIONING is preferred over EARLY POSITIONING... because
once again, you get to see what your opponents do first
before it's your turn to bet, raise, call, or fold.

Of course, being on the button is BETTER than just plain
late positioning... because the button GUARANTEES that you
will be LAST TO ACT post-flop.

OK, now here's what is NOT common knowledge...

Once you understand positioning and its enormous
implications, you can begin "improving" your positioning and
setting yourself up for more pots each game.

The technique is called STEALING THE BUTTON.

It's simple... it's practical... and right when you're done
reading this newsletter you can immediately start using it.

Stealing the button is LEVERAGING your late positioning when
you're NOT on the button... but getting all the same
benefits as if you WERE on the button.

Remember, the dealer position is SO POWERFUL because it
means you're LAST to act post-flop.

Being SECOND TO LAST to act isn't nearly as good, especially
considering there's usually only three or four players to a
flop at an 8-man table.

So what you do is make a reasonable pre-flop RAISE when
you're in late positioning... and therefore force the player
on the button to fold.

Having done this, you'll be last to act after the flop...
the same as if you actually were on the button. (Hence the
name, "stealing the button").

OK, let's look at an example so you can see what I'm talking
about:

Let's say you're sitting two seats to the RIGHT of the
button at a 10-man table. The game is $1-2 no limit Holdem.

Two players limp-in... and you look down at your cards:

J-9 of clubs.

I call hands like these "semi-connectors"-- they're not
quite connected... but almost.

The great thing about semi-connectors is that they're a
"hidden hand". When they HIT (straight, flush, two pair...)
your opponents NEVER see it coming.

You decide to play your Jack-9 suited. Now remember, there
are two players BEHIND you that will act post-flop if they
both call the blinds.

So it's YOUR JOB to make sure they DON'T limp-in.

The solution is to crank up the pressure...

You make it $15 to play. Nothing crazy (after all, you don't
exactly have a monster). You simply want to force the two
players to your left to FOLD... which will happen most of
the time.

Of course, they won't always fold... because sometimes
they'll pick up a big hand. But odds arethey'll fold.

The RESULT, of course, is now YOU have the button.

Well, not the button exactly... but all the advantages that
it brings.

Sure enough, the two players to your left fold, and Josh--
who's in the big blind-- is the only caller.

The flop comes out:

10h-8d-Ks

No flush possibilities for you here, but BINGO, you've just
flopped an open-ended straight draw.

This is the type of flop you hoped for.

Now it's on Josh to act first. And this is where your
positioning is so important. Not only do you get to see what
Josh does first... but you also have the CONTROL in this
situation.

Since you made the pre-flop raise, Josh will likely check
the flop to you... giving you the opportunity to play
aggressively and take down this pot.

No matter what happens after this, you've set yourself up to
win this pot. Sometimes Josh will pick up a real hand and
come out firing... but usually not.

Sure enough in our example, Josh checks.

You throw out a $30 semi-bluff. This is a bet you should
make even WITHOUT the open-ender... because you made the
pre-flop raise.

Josh mucks it, and you rake the chips... leaving the table
wondering what you had.

That's how you "steal" the button. It's a simple, surefire
way to gain control at the table by improving your
positioning.

There are five main steps you need to know...

1. You need a playable hand.

If you're going to bluff, make it a "semi-bluff" by raising
with a hand that can hit... something like semi-connectors.

I personally don't like raising with 7-2 offsuit or crap
like that. It seems to me like an "ego raise" more than a
logical play.

Remember, the key is to gain that extra bit of control and
power by acting LAST after the flop.

2. Force out the player on the button (and possibly the
player to his right).

The whole point to stealing the button is to ACTUALLY STEAL
THE BUTTON. If you make a wussy raise that doesn't scare
anyone, you've failed.

If you're one seat to the right of the button, you want to
raise enough to force the player on the button out. If
you're TWO seats to the right, then you've got to force out
both players to your left.

One of the "secrets" to this process is to ALWAYS pay
attention to the pre-flop betting patterns of your opponents
on the left.

If you're sitting on the right of "Tight Tim" who only sees
flops when he's got pocket pairs, then you can steal the
button quite often.

On the other hand, if you're on the right of a LOOSE player,
you won't be able to steal the button nearly as much.

So pay attention.

3. After the flop, your opponents will usually check to you.

Notice if someone bets into you, beware. That's a red flag.
Usually players will check into you since you raised
pre-flop.

When players check into you that gives you the power to
either BET and try to steal the pot right there... OR... get
a free turn card by also checking.

While I normally recommend a bet, you can check to mix it up
once in awhile or in the case that you're getting
short-stacked.

4. Don't get pot-committed.

Remember, stealing the button is a simple technique that
improves your position and sets you up to have a BETTER
CHANCE at winning the hand.

Don't get stupid. Don't get stubborn and bet any amount in
hopes of bluffing out someone with a real hand.

Like I said, you need a playable hand to steal the button in
the first place.

Don't become pot-committed... Never bet so much that it's
PAINFUL to fold your cards after the flop.

5. Sometimes you don't need to raise to steal the button.

Often the blinds will be high enough where you figure simply
CALLING the big blind will get you the button (this is
especially true when you're to the right of a tight player).

Also, someone in front of you might raise the pot enough
that all you have to do is CALL THE RAISE and you'll get the
button.

OK, so that's the process...

Here are the two types of situations where you DO want to
steal the button...

DO STEAL THE BUTTON WHEN:

1. You sense weakness and want to steal the pot on a bluff
or hidden hand.

2. You have a good hand that you want to play post-flop.

On the other hand...

DO NOT STEAL THE BUTTON WHEN:

1. You have a poor hand and you sense someone else has a
strong hand.

2. You think someone to your left will call a raise no
matter what (that defeats the purpose).

The MOST IMPORTANT lesson you can get from all this is to
realize that winning poker depends on ALL THE LITTLE THINGS.

Stealing the button is just a little technique for setting
yourself up for better positioning... it's not a "game
changing" strategy that will double your poker profits or
anything.

But when you combine it with ALL THE OTHER LITTLE THINGS--
like establishing the right table image, throwing out feeler
bets, representing the flop at the right times, buying free
cards, picking up betting patterns, spotting tells, and
more-- then you will become a DYNAMIC and POWERFUL poker
player...

AND THEN your poker profits will double.

A lot of amateurs base their games on the "big hands" and
might get lucky once in awhile. But over time, the REAL
MONEY always goes to the GRINDERS... the guys who know how
to CONSISTENTLY take down pots.

It takes a lot of discipline, don't get me wrong.

But you can do it.

[spaceboy761]

Is this just like 'straddling'? High profit potential, but very risky.

[WinJStar]

Who is this Roy Rounder guy? haha... I subscribe to his weekly tips, but really... does he even play? I guess a simple google search would do the trick, but when I did one all I saw was a bunch of people saying he is a hoax. His methods are very basic. He has a zillion people subscribing to his letters.

Hmm.... we should create a pen name and start our own bs thing and sell people E-books. I think it is all propaganda.

[Dale]

ohh you might be on something Jen

[WinJStar]

Dale, do u know anything about getting us highly ranked? Lets come up with a great pen name and do it!

How bout

Buster Balls?