Opinions on this one:

[pnejay]

While reviewing some older hand histories, I came across this one, which now I feel was misplayed.
If it wasn't for the fact I was in the big blind and had to check, if the pot was raised, I would have folded.

Anyone have an opinion??


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

HERO (BB) ($5.39)
UTG ($3.51)
UTG+1 ($1.54)
MP1 ($0.93)
MP2 ($4.86)
MP3 ($1.06)
CO ($10.44)
Button ($36.78)
SB ($5)

Preflop: HERO is BB with J, Q
6 folds, Button calls $0.05, 1 fold, HERO checks

Flop: ($0.12) 4, 7, J (2 players)
HERO checks, Button bets $0.12, HERO raises to $0.48, Button calls $0.36

Turn: ($1.08) 10 (2 players)
HERO bets $1.08, Button calls $1.08

River: ($3.24) 4 (2 players)
HERO checks, Button bets $3.40, HERO calls $3.40

Total pot: $10.04 | Rake: $0.66

[WinJStar]

It seems like whether you check or bet, button is calling regardless. Not sure how the outcome would have changed. You could have even raised preflop, he would have been in there.

[curtinsea]

I'm thinking he has an over pair to the board, limped in because he didn't want to scare away action. I like the check raise, and the lead out on the turn, but I'd fold that river bet unless I've seen him pushing people around with nothing. I see no reason for him to think you will fold to a river bet, so you can be reasonable sure he feels he's ahead.

[ItWasSooted]

I'm thinking he has an over pair to the board, limped in because he didn't want to scare away action. I like the check raise, and the lead out on the turn,

I don't like the betsize much, why do you want to play a big pot there with top pair and Queen kicker? Yes it is the micro limits and all, but you invest way too much without knowing what your opponent has.

[trauma]

BB two overs I might bet out of the gate. Button limp With only two too act maybe trying to see a cheap flop. Make him pay to see it. Worst case you just lost 20 cents to see how strong he was, best case an easy 5¢ either way prob better than what happened.

[pnejay]

I'm thinking he has an over pair to the board, limped in because he didn't want to scare away action. I like the check raise, and the lead out on the turn, but I'd fold that river bet unless I've seen him pushing people around with nothing. I see no reason for him to think you will fold to a river bet, so you can be reasonable sure he feels he's ahead.

I think all the comments are very good, and I appreciate the different views. This one seems to hit it on the nail.

The result of the hand - my opponent slow-played AA - I was PO'd but think I should have folded to the river bet.

Sure wish there was an easy way to spot slow-plays if you haven't seen the player do it before.

Once again - thanks

[pokermafia11]

umm easy fold....."fold when you know ur beat" dry board=he got something in his hand or hit that board....unless u can beat at least top pair on board only way to call.....i diudnt see ur hand so idk.,...unless i didnt look carefully.....lol

[The4thHorseman]

The flat call of the check raise should have sent a wave of alarm bells through the room.

[Fabolous1]

Hmm, on the flop I never check raise because you really only get called by worse. I like the check on the flop, but I think you should just call. I mean he did limp on the button so we know he could have A/7s, 6/7s, 8/7s, and hands of that nature maybe even K/7s. So we realize he could have just a 7, but our hand isn't strong enough to get it in here a call is way better then check raising. On the turn based on how you played I lead for around $0.75 to $0.80. on the river checking is fine, but hmm who's to say a blocking bet wouldn't be better. I mean there is a decent chance you are good here why not bet like $1.25 this allows you to see the river for a cheaper price, and if he shoves well obviously its a fold. the blocking bet does good here because it allows you to get value from all 7's in his range, and it may even just get hands like A/Q, K/Q, and maybe Q/10s, Q/9s just call as well. When you check on the river he may feel the need to turn all his 7's in his range into a bluff thinking you have a hand like you have and will fold it.

[batgirl218]

Kinda beating a dead horse here, but I agree with everyone else, actually before I even read the comments I cringed at the check raise flop.

My priorities in cash games has always been (with a solid hand) chek to the raiser first, lead out second. So in this case since there is no raiser I would have led out, most of the times the limping button at these stakes misses this board almost everytime and you don't want to blown off your hand should he just pot it everytime with air.

The flat on the flop in a bigger cash game I would agree with the whole alarm bell theory. However at these stakes people are soooo passive that he could just have an ace, he could have 88, 99, TT, it depends on what you know about this player.

The ten of diamonds is probably a bad card here as strange as that sounds because unless he has an ace that had to have helped him if you stop and think about some stuff he might have flatted with

89s (People love that hand) -- just made a straight
KQ -- two overs and now open ended
6d5d -- picked up a lot of outs
AdKd -- two overs + HUGE DRAW
TT -- Just made a set

At a $5 those are all really logical holdings for a button, esp. if he's a weak player overall.

By the river when the board pairs you have to include any 4 he might have like A4s in his range. At this point now the pot is too large to walk away from and when you give up the lead on the river it opens the door for him to fire big.


On the river I might have tried to go for a blocking bet. I think there's around $3 in the pot right now if I did my fuzzy math correctly. I might try a blocking bet of around $1.50-$1.75, if he raises or shoves you know you are beat. If he just calls then you still might have him. Either way you end up saving yourself a couple bucks by putting out that blocking bet.