John Unitas,Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, John Elway

[spaceboy761]

No thats not what you said, you said if he wins this weekend then he joins the debate for being in the class with the Bradshaws, Unitas and the others. I said if he wins this weekened it makes him the best ever.

Eh. I wouldn't call him #1 just yet even if he wins. Elway won 2 SB's and went to 5 with a much worse supporting cast than Manning ever had. The Broncos teams in the late 80's were pretty much a one-man show.

[billynomates]

Have to agree, Manning has a super supporting cast; poss he's made them super but been found wanting a couple times at the crunch, lost the crucial games.

[justdome69]

Eh. I wouldn't call him #1 just yet even if he wins. Elway won 2 SB's and went to 5 with a much worse supporting cast than Manning ever had. The Broncos teams in the late 80's were pretty much a one-man show.

I went back and looked and I would not say that Elway had a worse supporting cast. And going to 5 super bowls and only winning 2 is not a very good supporting statement. If it was then Jim Kelly would be a god. I think Marino was better than Manning as a pure passer. Staubach was a better field general, and Young was a better all around quarterback. Unitas was before my time, but I so not think it is fair to compare players from that generation. But if we are adding everything together and if he wins this weekend i feel it would make him the best ever.

[spaceboy761]

I'm tired of people using the fact that Elway lost three Super Bowls as evidence that he sucked. He MADE it there... that's hard enough. Would he be a better QB if he won his two Super Bowls and got bounced out of the playoffs three times in the 80's instead? Of course not. I'm also not sure to whom you're comparing the 80's Broncos. There wasn't an above average RB (with the POSSIBLE exception of one year with Bobby Humphrey) on those teams, no terrific receivers, an OK defense, and a crappy line.

Bad stat for Manning... his career postseason record is 9-9. Not good.

I agree that Dan Marino was a better pure thrower than Elway, but he was also stuck on some pretty mediocre teams. Elway has the edge because he was the second-best ever at making plays on his own next Steve Young. Marino was a statue.

[spaceboy761]

This is also a great reference:

NFL starting quarterback playoff records - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Try sorting it by the different columns and you'll see some pretty good arguments for different QB's.

[maverick35]

Old Mav realizes exactly all those who claimed P M wuz the best Q B ever certainkly found out off yesterday that this is no not necessarily so butt then losing the Super Bowl 2010 after a 10 0 lead shows proves that the Q B may no not do it alone and so needs a supporting cast which Drew Brez gota and so P M no not gota and so old Mav had hoped they would alow Drew Brez to make another pass completion to seta the record at 33 butt he tied Brady at 32 and so this wuz the difference and so the up on side kick off and so the interception run back for a touch down sealed the loss for the Colts and so changed the course of how the Super Bowls go butt old Mav no not cares it is all riged the profesionial R B who play r all a bunch of R B who hope to stop old Mav from a miracle and so they better hope old Mav no not geta a miracle and so luckily they no not take old Mav seriously and so all they wana do is stop old Mav from eating Water Melon and so Cantelope butt they may find their r worse things then eating old Mavs own beans and so it is Monday February eighth 8 th 2010 old Mav took the day off to rest up and so recover from the attack old Mav suffered in the ridiculously riged football game to stop old Mav and so once again old Mav realizes old Mav needs a miracle and so lucky for old Mav they no not take old Mav seriously sorry right... sorry old Mav

[billynomates]

my original feeling was correct, when it comes to crunch Manning tightens up

[justdome69]

And he was classic Manning after the game, he walked away pouting. He did not shake hands with anyone, he is suck a jerk.

[LadyWrestler]

This is also a great reference:

NFL starting quarterback playoff records - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Try sorting it by the different columns and you'll see some pretty good arguments for different QB's.

Yeah! Thanks! I like that chart!!!

A good case could be made for Bart Starr based on that.

[justdome69]

I guess before we name a elite list for qb's we need to know what the rules are. Is it winning, stats or something else?