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    I understand that many people depend on SS, but I'm not saying it's right... it's a huge problem. The program can't be suddenly stopped for this reason, but the government has to find the most painless way of eventually winding it down through steady reductions. As soon as the government made the switch over to the pay-as-you-go system sometime in the 70's (I think... my last Public Finance course was in 1999), it became nothing more than a pyramid scheme. Eventually, someone has to bite the bullet and accept the fact that the money they put into the system ain't coming back. I know I have being only 30 years old.

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    You are right about being 30 and not receiving SS when you retire. Personally I believe it was a great system and like so others, it has gone astray. I have paid many, many, many dollars into it. My point was we just can not decrease what has already been earned when there are so many that depend on it. The younger generation, which u r in, have time to plan other alternatives, the elderly can not. Sorry I blew a fuse but when I read ur statement my blood pressure raised!! Think you know I fully support the elderly, children and out troops.

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    Well, a few things are obvious:

    1. The seniors of today pretty much depend on it.
    2. The youth of today aren't going to see a penny even though they've already started paying in.



    The only way to reconcile this is to steadily decrease benefits over time until they disappear. The one thing that can't happen is a hard line as in everyone born in or before 19xx getting full benefits and everyone younger getting nothing. It's going to be painful any way you cut it, and more painful the longer the act drags on. And God help the politicians that are actually forced to enact this.

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    The seniors over 65, who are collecting social security now, should not have their checks cut, period...in my opinion, of course. It is NOT their faults that our government stole the money they paid in. I am with Bill, 100%, on this: I fully support the elderly, children, and our troops, too! If it takes an increase in my Social Security taxes to support the elderly with dignity then I am all for it!

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    OH! What's that, Shay? You mean big government CAN be used to positive effect?

    I just set by Outlook calendar to remind us all of the 1 year anniversary of you saying this on September 18th next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyWrestler View Post
    The seniors over 65, who are collecting social security now, should not have their checks cut, period...in my opinion, of course. It is NOT their faults that our government stole the money they paid in. I am with Bill, 100%, on this: I fully support the elderly, children, and our troops, too! If it takes an increase in my Social Security taxes to support the elderly with dignity then I am all for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybob View Post
    Think you know I fully support the elderly, children and out troops.

    So you support gays in the military. Good for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJQ View Post
    So you support gays in the military. Good for you!
    Any and all that support the freedom of this country. not sure a bullet, bomb, land mine, knows, or cares, who is what. We may fight or disagree among ourselves, but we must maintain our freedom!! I just wish the younger generation would appreciate, and not take for granted, what our forefathers did, to be, and remain free. I am sad to say the young kids in my family are clueless, they just take everything for granted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybob View Post
    You are right about being 30 and not receiving SS when you retire. Personally I believe it was a great system and like so others, it has gone astray. I have paid many, many, many dollars into it. My point was we just can not decrease what has already been earned when there are so many that depend on it. The younger generation, which u r in, have time to plan other alternatives, the elderly can not. Sorry I blew a fuse but when I read ur statement my blood pressure raised!! Think you know I fully support the elderly, children and out troops.
    i agree with you and i would add israel to that list of things i support unlike our potus who bitch slaps israel every fucking chance he gets.

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