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    Will he go for 2nd term?

    Does Barack Obama want to be re-elected in 2012?
    Few Americans consider themselves bigger than the presidency but Obama might be one of them. The man in the Oval Office, argues Toby Harnden, may already be preparing for a role as a post-president in a post-American world.

    By Toby Harnden
    Published: 9:00PM BST 21 Aug 201


    Barack Obama may already be preparing for a role as a post-president in a post-American world. When David Plouffe, President Barack Obama's 2008 campaign manager, wrote recently that his former boss was "not concerned with his re-election", there was predictable scepticism.

    After all, it has long been a truism that every politician wants to cling to power and a reality that presidential campaigns are planned years in advance. Pronouncements about not looking at polls and concentrating on getting things done are, moreover, standard fare from poll-driven, election-obsessed politicians and their apparatchiks.


    , however, Plouffe may inadvertently be onto something. Almost everything Obama does these days suggests that he doesn't care much about being re-elected. Strange as it might seem, perhaps he wants to be a one-term president.

    Obama was elected in 2008 at an extraordinary moment in American politics. Suddenly, this charismatic figure, elected to the Senate without serious opposition in 2004 and without any executive experience, was catapulted into the White House.

    His presidential bid had been based on the power of his life story and his ability with the spoken word. Doubtless he was as surprised as anyone else that he pulled it off. Governing has been altogether more difficult for him and there are signs he is already tiring of it.

    Obama's intervention on the so-called "Ground Zero mosque" issue is a case in point. There was no need for him to get involved - the Islamic community centre two blocks from the 9/11 site is unlikely to get built and there was no political advantage in his making a statement.

    What he said about religious freedom was typically Obama - high-minded, principled and legalistic. He is, after all, a former constitutional law professor. What his words lacked were any real empathy with what Americans felt and practical considerations about resolving the issue - never mind the political downside for him.

    Doubtless he has been advised to prove he is "connected" to ordinary Americans by doing things like be seen attending church and taking "regular" holidays. But Obama seems happy to act as a European-style secularist, vacation in Martha's Vineyard and send his daughters to one of America's most exclusive private schools.

    Obama does not suffer for self doubt. He has long seemed so convinced of his own virtue that to question his motives is illogical. Increasingly, his pronouncements carry the tone of one who believes those who disagree are stupid or bigoted.

    Before departing for Martha's Vineyard last week, Obama spent three days on the campaign trail raising money and support for Democratic mid-term election candidates. Don't give in to fear," he said in Milwaukee. "Let's reach for hope."

    It was a message that worked once but is unlikely to appeal this time, with America in the grip of a recession, unemployment still stubbornly close to 10 percent and blame-it-on-Bush rhetoric wearing very thin.

    Obama is, however, at his best in these settings. He has the crowd hanging on his every word and he is not dealing with grubby political realities or objectionable opponents. Perhaps they are a reminder for him of simpler times.

    They might also be a glimpse of the future. For Obama, the crowning moment of his presidency have been speeches abroad - the statement in Strasbourg that America had been "dismissive and arrogant", the address to the Muslim world from Cairo, the acceptance in Oslo of the Nobel Peace Prize.

    In Berlin in 2008, Obama cast himself as a "citizen of the world". He has dismissed the bedrock notion of American exceptionalism by describing it, also in Strasbourg, as little more than narrow patriotism. Elite opinion among liberal Ivy League types - of which Obama is the embodiment - holds that we are already living in a post-American world.

    There are few Americans who see themselves as bigger than the presidency but Obama could well be one of them. In 2008, Obama showed little appetite for the down-and-dirty aspects of political campaigning.

    When things got tough against Hillary Clinton, he all but conceded the final Democratic primaries and let the clock run out. Against John McCain, he developed a campaign plan and refused to deviate from it. McCain was level in the polls when the US economy imploded, handing Obama a relatively comfortable victory.

    Obama is the first black American president, an established author, multi-millionaire and acclaimed figure beyond American shores.

    It seems highly unlikely that Obama will decide not to run in 2012. But he might well be calculating that a embarking post-presidential role as the leading global thinker in the post-American world as a Republican successor enters office is more attractive than being sullied by the political compromises and manoeuvrings necessary to win
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    Exclamation Old Mav realizes if Obama the Democrats r realistic they should see whut they need

    Old Mav realizes exactly just only one 1 thing could and so would geta Obama re elected and so that would be a Hizbulah Syria Israel war right RIGHT and so EXACTLY THAT ALONE COULD AND SO WOULD GETA OBAMA RE ELECTED RIGHT RIGHT and so no not nothing else and so the hand writing is up on the wall any politicial advisor could and so would and so should tell and so explain that to Obama and so it made the Nixon election it made the Eiseinhower election and so it could make the Obama election butt if Obama exactly just only wana be a one 1 term president and so then by all means nix any Hizbulah Syria Israel war right RIGHT and so lucky for old Mav they no not take old Mav seriously and so old Mav needs a miracle sorry right... sorry old Mav

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    Barack O' Bama...simply O mazing...

    "We were told we were getting a cool, calm, steady leader who could rise above emotional impulses to deliver classic statesmanship and prudent governance. But all too often we witness in him a petulant and vindictive bully who doesn't seem to understand why anyone would challenge his omniscience." from Crimes Against Liberty by David Limbaugh


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    I realize a lot of people were fooled by him the first time (how, I can't even fathom).

    It would take a complete moron to vote for him again.

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    Exclamation Old Mav realizes exactly in old Mavs own opinion u geting exactly whut he looks like

    Old Mav realizes exactly in old Mavs own opinion u r geting exactly whut Obama looks like he acts exactly whut he looks like thus no not much surprises to old Mav since old Mav knows exactly whut he looks like is exactly whut u r geting butt some people believe they should geta some kind of person which probably no not realy exists in real life and so butt then he fits the times again in old Mavs own opinion the only way he may over ride adverse developing opinion that he is too stagnant a president the next person would be a beter mover which is always whut is the strategy he claimed he would be a beter mover than Mc Cain and so to get the vote another probably narow victory it may take a Hizbulah Syria Israel war that may give him a second 2 nd term in office and so that is old Mavs own opinion sorry right and so old Mav is lucky they no not take old Mav seriously and so old Mav needs a miracle sorry right... sorry old Mav

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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageJug View Post
    I realize a lot of people were fooled by him the first time (how, I can't even fathom).

    It would take a complete moron to vote for him again.
    We'll have to second that!!!!third forth fifty that helll may freeze over!!!!!!before anyone is elected for change again!!!!

    I still believe Hillary shoul;d be there!!!! But time will tell!

    Kind of feel sorry for him! Any human that wants that job , is going to be under complete stress........ I do think that NY mayor , who's a millionair should run.... Bloombird vs Hillary .....but i have to stay neutral........

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    If he doesn't care about the next election, that alone makes him a very dangerous man over the next two years...even to his peers!

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    If he doesn't care about the next election, that alone makes him a very dangerous man over the next two years...even to his peers!
    he has been for the last 2vears- I bet Hillary sickof him- everyone thinks she in charge-barry couldnt even get olympics

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyguy2007 View Post
    If he doesn't care about the next election, that alone makes him a very dangerous man over the next two years...even to his peers!
    Truer word have not been spoken!! Unless some things change drastically, I don't think he would have a chance though.

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