These are for you NIC ... just for you

**Moab** · 10-18-2011, 02:41 PM

Here is some more good old Right Winged waste of time and money. Money they could do some good with. My challenge to you is find the lie here and prove the left made this up and that the left also created some law allowing us to shoot someone we dissagree with ...

South Dakota flirted with a law to make the murder of an abortion doctor legal as self-defense
When South Dakota was forced to drop the idea of murdering abortion doctors, Nebraska and Iowa picked up the idea

**curtinsea** · 10-18-2011, 03:04 PM

actually, this argument has been tried before, and hasn't made it through the courts. A law like this would not hold up.

but it has a real basis, not the made up one you put out there. It has nothing to do with shooting someone "you disagree with".

There is a large segment of the population who view abortion as murder. It's not as cut and dried as someone like yourself would like to think it is. Pro-lifers' views are just as valid as yours, and passions run high. If one were to accept that abortion is murder, then killing an abortionist to prevent him from killing others is self defense.

I don't think it's nutty at all, I think the issue is far from resolved, and that it really needs to be properly codified by the Congress, because it's currently fraught with double standards, primarily that the unborn can be considered crime victims at the same time their lives can be snuffed out at the discretion of their mothers.

**curtinsea** · 10-18-2011, 03:09 PM

but as usual, you didn't look very deep, did you??

UPDATE 2: Jensen (the bill's sponsor) is considering adding specific protections for abortion providers to his bill, he told the Washington Post's Greg Sargent on Wednesday morning. He plans to meet with the South Dakota state attorney general on Wednesday morning to discuss potential changes to the bill. "There's no way in the world that I or any other representatives wish to see abortion doctors murdered," Jensen told Sargent. "So we're looking at some language that will include that. We're looking at some language that would protect abortion providers." Jensen's "decision to consider changing the bill amounts to an admission that the proposal may be flawed and perhaps not as clear cut as he insisted," Sargent writes.

So once again you try to make it something that it's not to suit your own agenda. You really should actually read the source info that you link to trying (and failing) to make your case.

You asked, you got it

FAIL

Sorry Nicci if I stole your chance

**motherfunky** · 10-18-2011, 03:10 PM

I suppose if the defendant is a 7 month old partially born baby then it would be a good defense wouldnt it?

Well me lud its like this, he was coming at the back of my skull with a pair of sharp scissors, I had reason to believe he was going to open me up with said scissors and insert a catheter to suck my brains out. Thats when I decided to defend myself and do a deadly green shit in his face.

Trouble is 7 month old partially born babies are usually smaller than abortionists, so it aint really a fair fight. But you dont care about fair do you my non baby bearing, lesbo, commie, race card playing friend.

**Moab** · 10-18-2011, 03:12 PM

Abortion is not illegal. So shooting a abortionist would be murder. I don't like capital punishment but I can't kill the executioner with impunity. If someone is murdered in my family (and was) I cannot kill my brothers killer even though I sometimes wish I could do and all the time not wanting death for his murderer who was caught.

**Moab** · 10-18-2011, 03:17 PM

Yep the guy got so much shit that he had to do something ... Or is thinking about doing something.

Jensen's "decision to consider changing the bill amounts to an admission that the proposal may be flawed and perhaps not as clear cut as he insisted," Sargent writes.

The key word here is consider ... Humm ... consider long enough until public pressure dies out doe dissapers due to poor attention span of most voters.

**motherfunky** · 10-18-2011, 03:18 PM

OMG you sometimes wish you could kill your brothers murderer??? With such un-pure thoughts I think its time you visited the right on politically correct re-education center for a bit of moral guidance.

**curtinsea** · 10-18-2011, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Moab

Abortion is not illegal. So shooting a abortionist would be murder. I don't like capital punishment but I can't kill the executioner with impunity. If someone is murdered in my family (and was) I cannot kill my brothers killer even though I sometimes wish I could do and all the time not wanting death for his murderer who was caught.

Well first, I showed where making killing abortionists was never the goal of this particular bill, but just to snuff ^^ that lame comparison . . . . you wouldn't be killing the abortionist because of the abortions he HAS committed, but to STOP him from committing more.

I suppose if the defendant is a 7 month old partially born baby then it would be a good defense wouldnt it?

Scott Peterson is on California's death row for a double homicide, one of the victims being his unborn child. It was only a capital crime because it was multiple victims. If abortion is legal, then killing a pregnant woman should not be a double murder. it's either a person or it's not, that is what is wrong with things now.

**curtinsea** · 10-18-2011, 03:22 PM

Jensen's "decision to consider changing the bill amounts to an admission that the proposal may be flawed and perhaps not as clear cut as he insisted," Sargent writes.

I don't disagree with this statement at all, nor do I think it changes anything. Often bills are written with ambiguity and have unintended consequences. And sure an uproar led to him reconsidering, and eventually dropping it altogether. But he clearly was not intent on making killing abortionists legal.

If he was, he would have stuck to his guns and got his bill (easily) passed and signed into law