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[Moab]

What is there a hugely noticeable lack of economics in the debates. Sure they bash Mits health care and Obama's spending, but they don't have any plans.

Sure like alpha apes they pound their chest but never pick the fleas of the rest of us in the pack. Any of you who support say ... Cain, can you tell me what it that makes you believe he has a plan that will regrow the economy. Please don't tell me that because he made a great pizza that he can do it no more than Paula Dean can cooking chicken.

Mit's a funder like ... so unless he will have a fund for all of us that won't ... work. What will?

We do know Obama's plan.

[billynomates]

You know Obama's plans which are based on his guestimations- which have been way out. Surely Cain has a proven track record at successfully running a large business, has Obama?

[Moab]

You know Obama's plans which are based on his guestimations- which have been way out. Surely Cain has a proven track record at successfully running a large business, has Obama?

You can't prove Cains track record at Godfather. Godfather is a private company and isn't required to file financial statements also Cain left in 2002. Cain was on the board of directors for the Federal Reserve Bank. Ran for President in 2000 and when he dropped out endorsed Forbes ..

So we don't know how efficient he was while there his term was from 1996 to 2002. Before going on board while with Pillsbury he close a number of stores making Godfather profitable and then sold it to private investors where he was then brought on as CEO ..

[billynomates]

That's why I asked and didn't state. I don't know a lot about Cain!

[billybob]

Obama has a plan??? When will he make it work, oh, I know, its every ones fault but his. The dictator just can not get the votes he needs because most people are just not for socialism.

[curtinsea]

I look at it like this . . . . as long as everyone still clings to "establishment" politicians, the game will never change. We need to be looking at outsiders, like Cain for instance, who haven't spent their lives working on and raising funds for the next campaign.

Couple that with throwing blind support to an incumbent simply because he's your party's guy, despite being an epic failure by every measure, and you get what you deserve.

[Moab]

=billybob] Obama has a plan??? When will he make it work, oh, I know, its every ones fault but his. The dictator just can not get the votes he needs because most people are just not for socialism.

He's been toughing it for two weeks and being accused of running against Congress with it .. Congress has refused to consider it and say they have their own plan but haven't introduced to the Budget Committee s of yet.

I look at it like this . . . . as long as everyone still clings to "establishment" politicians, the game will never change. We need to be looking at outsiders, like Cain for instance, who haven't spent their lives working on and raising funds for the next campaign.

Couple that with throwing blind support to an incumbent simply because he's your party's guy, despite being an epic failure by every measure, and you get what you deserve.

The problem here with non professional politicians is in my estimation Curt, is this; they believe without having to raise funds they need only to get endorsements from people the mass of voters approve of. They will get funds from special interest lobbies and be true to only the rich like themselves. If the invest 400 million to win office they sure ah heck will want that money back and even though they are required to have their wealth in a trust they cannot direct while in office they will have people who "wink" make the right investments for them .. Here is an example;

�Halliburton has already raked in more than $20 billion from the Bush-Cheney Administration for work in Iraq, and they were awarded some of the first Katrina contracts," Lautenberg said in a statement. "It is unseemly for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his Administration funnels billions of dollars to it. The Vice President should sever his financial ties to Halliburton once and for all.�
Cheney continues to hold 433,333 Halliburton stock options. The company has been criticized by auditors for its handling of a no-bid contact in Iraq. Auditors found the firm marked up meal prices for troops and inflated gas prices in a deal with a Kuwaiti supplier. The company built the American prison at Guantanamo Bay.
The Vice President has sought to stem criticism by signing an agreement to donate the after-tax profits from these stock options to charities of his choice, and his lawyer has said he will not take any tax deduction for the donations.
However, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) concluded in Sept. 2003 that holding stock options while in elective office does constitute a �financial interest� regardless of whether the holder of the options will donate proceeds to charities. CRS also found that receiving deferred compensation is a financial interest.
Cheney told "Meet the Press" in 2003 that he didn't have any financial ties to the firm.
�Since I left Halliburton to become George Bush's vice president, I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest," the Vice President said. "I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years.�
Cheney continues to received a deferred salary from the company. According to financial disclosure forms, he was paid $205,298 in 2001; $262,392 in 2002; $278,437 in 2003; and $294,852 in 2004.

it's not the government, it's the people running it who need to be held accountablebut sadly they manage to wright laws with loopholes and congress lacks the will to close them because when they leave office and that's all of them dem or rep are offered great jobs on K street or in a think tank trying to figure out more ways to screw the working class ... Don't think for one Minute that Tea Bagger you support .. when he or she leaves whatever office will be sitting in a really high paying job working against your interest.

[Moab]

PS ... Cain is more of a insider than you think .. He sat on the Federal Reserve Board ...

[billybob]

well, I watched the debate last night, Perry wants to reference everything to Texas, and half the time it seems he is off on his figures, or so the others say. I like Cain more and more, but believe Romney will have it if he doesn't screw up down the line. I swear though, I am repeating myself, Newt seems to be at ease with any question and his answers.

[Moab]

I'm liking Cain myself .. I just don't know as of yet because he lacks a position paper. He does stand for womens rights and is against don't ask .............. Screeching halt ..... He does have a paper the's Anti-choice, anti gay and not sure on guns. He talks and walks the Tea Party line.