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This is a discussion on Internet Gaming within the The Political and Social Snake Pit forums, part of the Current Happenings category; Wtf? I am obviously up to my eyeballs in this stuff. Just started a thread with updates regarding deposits. ( ...

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    Wtf? I am obviously up to my eyeballs in this stuff. Just started a thread with updates regarding deposits. (http://luvinpoker.com/forum/general-...tml#post649328) It is not just LP that will be affected. As of Dec 1, all major sites will be cutting out the US depositing options. Ya know, I remember when I first wanted to take us to the www after PR. I had a debate with Paul (some of you may remember Nynus). He said opening LP was silly. Pokerroom would not be kicking us out. He said even if the law passed, it will be at least 2-3 years until it needs to be enforced. Well, PR got scared and kicked us out early. Essentially, that is what my credit card processor did as well. (Only difference is they were a month early and not 3 years early). Pokerroom thought they had enough international clientele to keep them afloat and they were wrong, thereby just closed their doors. Paul was right in one sense, they were so foolish not to be taking our money the past few years. Poker is being treated like a drug! I just want to encourage all of you to join the PPA (Poker Players Alliance). We have a banner on the left side of our forum main page. Keep yourself informed, there is no charge to be a member.

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    Gambling is a sin, is it not? No wonder the right-wingers want it banned.

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    what a crock of shit!!!

    fuckin republicans!
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    yea, what does internet gaming have to do with port security??

    and what does hate crime legislation have to do with defense appropriations??

    Oct 28th, 2009

    The expanded federal hate crimes law, hailed by supporters as the first major federal gay rights legislation, was added to a $680 billion defense authorization bill that Obama signed at a packed White House ceremony.
    the representative from las vegas in the 3 year old clip should have stuck to the merits of the gaming bill and not tried to skewer republicans because of the way it was passed. both parties pull that crap all the time, it's how stuff gets done in washington.

    as for the internet gaming ban, it's easy to see why many want it enforced. casino operators want to monopolize it and others want to protect the masses from the evils of gambling. of course they kinda overlook the idea that people should be free to make their own choices. then again, the government wants to interfere in many other ways all in the name of protecting the populace. it's a long list, with both parties seeing issues that we must be too stupid to understand ourselves.

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    A lot of lobbying dollars from brick and mortar casinos went into this as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJQ View Post
    Gambling is a sin, is it not? No wonder the right-wingers want it banned.

    Nice going Republicans! Or should I say "Big Brother".
    I'm a republican and I think it's a crock of shit.

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    Thumbs up Old Mav realizes exactly it is a shame on line poker is no not a crime H*ll ???

    Old Mav realizes exactly it is Tuesday November 10 2009 no not 1919 1929 and so exactly how is on line poker any worse and or a crime if local casinos card rooms no not a crime and so as America builds more casinos card rooms in every state at a record pace u gotta wonder how on line poker is a crime butt these local casinos card rooms are regarded by all states as a means to add needed tax revenue and so money to all the states and so probably federal as well alas old Mav realizes there has gotta be more to it alas old Mav hopes that any added increased legal banking credit cards whutever and so laws legislations rules codes things whutever and so that go in to affect December first 1 st 2009 no not force L Poker to close down alas old Mav realizes we need more business and so no not less alas old Mav realizes poker alcohol 1929 2009 and so the American government gotta some kind of a number nine 9 mental complex alcohol poker butt alas old Mav realizes they may run it any way manner they wanna right RIGHT and so hope things improve moderate alas old Mav is scared being J*wish people may blame old Mav and so the Fort Hood masacre thing whutever and so old Mav is more scared than the Muslums r and so good luck Win J Star and so old Mav hopes this on line poker thing whutever and so cools down in 2010 sorry right... sorry old Mav

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    The Mafia always close down the competition. I thought you bought an expensive gaming license Jen? Hope you get your money back... fuckin goons.
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    I commented on this from the Poker News Feed in here a couple of days ago... grrrrrrrr!

    http://luvinpoker.com/forum/poker-ne...ine-poker.html





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    Very interesting Susan - for all of you too lazy to click a link, here is the article:

    Bump in the Road for Online Poker
    November 09, 2009, Matthew Kredell

    Senator Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) and Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.) co-signed a letter to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke last week opposing calls to delay the Dec. 1 compliance date of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act by one year.

    Having two members of Congress openly oppose poker's cause might not seem like a positive turn of events, but it's actually encouraging.


    We had to figure that poker's detractors would respond to the letter initiated by Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) backing the petition filed by the Poker Players Alliance, National Thoroughbred Racing Association and American Greyhound Track Operators Association.

    Kyl, the Senate Minority Whip, is likely to be a familiar name to those who have followed the UIGEA saga since its beginning. He, along with former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, were the two people most responsible for getting this flawed legislation through Congress in the first place.

    That Kyl would write this letter is encouraging to poker on two levels. First, he feels the PPA's petition will be taken seriously enough to warrant his effort in drafting a response. Second, he could only find one other member of Congress willing to sign on with him.

    Nineteen Congressmen, including four Republicans, signed the letter backing the request for a delay.

    Kyl and Bachus do make a strong point regarding the timing of the request coming after the financial industry presumably has spent a year putting in place ways to comply with the law.

    The letter states: "If the Final Rule represented an 'unreasonable burden on regulators and the financial services industry,' as certain other Members have claimed, then the Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve could have reconsidered the regulations early in the new Administration and before the regulated industry began taking steps to comply. This did not happen, and members of the financial services industry did not petition to have the Final Rule amended."

    They scoff at the notion in Frank's letter that Congress is likely to move legislation delaying compliance, writing that it is "a blatant attempt to circumvent the democratic process by influencing the Treasury Department and Federal Reserve to take action that cannot possibly be enacted by Congress."

    That may be true. The Reasonable Prudence in Regulation Act, HR 2266, was introduced by Frank back in May to delay the compliance date for the UIGEA by one year. The bill has 52 co-sponsors but has not made any progress at the committee level. With many other pressing issues in Congress, it seems extremely doubtful the legislation could be expedited through with only three weeks before the compliance date.

    Kyl and Bachus conclude that, rather than delaying compliance, the Treasury Department and Federal Reserve should monitor the effectiveness of the UIGEA regulations after they go into effect and consider modifications if they prove necessary.

    Even if the UIGEA is implemented as planned, it is only one bad beat in a long session. Internet Poker will continue to be played by U.S. residents. The licensing and regulation of online poker would make the UIGEA meaningless, and that is the ultimate goal.

    Out of the 52 co-sponsors on HR 2266, only five are Republicans. Frank's bill to license and regulate Internet gambling, HR 2267, has only four Republicans among its 62 co-sponsors.

    For Internet poker to find legitimacy in the U.S., it will take bi-partisan support. That Kyl could only get one other Republican to sign on to his letter opposing the interests of online poker perhaps shows that most Republicans aren't actively against the activity. They could be on the fence, possibly not eager to jump on to a bill sponsored by Frank, the outspoken Democrat, until it reaches the serious stage of consideration.

    One way to look at these competing letters is that poker has more friends on Capitol Hill right now than Kyl. That certainly could not have been said three years ago, when the UIGEA passed through Congress.

    For those that missed Susan's reply:

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    Isn't this ^^^^^ enough to make you Republican Poker Playin' People question your party affiliation???!!!


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