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    It's not republicans as a whole, in fact many righties think it should be legal, now the radical bible thumping right wing nut jobs, they actually think it was them that got this done. IMO it's simply the big boys in Vegas putting pressure on powers that be today to enforce a "maybe law" so they have time to put together their internet gambling sites.
    Was told there were some hectic share dealing in few weeks before the news re: the Vegas casinos and online sites. Don't know if that is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJQ View Post
    1) Are you saying that until someone gets convicted of breaking a new law that it's not really a law yet?

    2) Republicans started this shit, period! Maybe you Republicans here need to re-think your politics if you want to be able to play online.
    1) essentially, yes that is what I am saying. The law in the State of WA that I was mostly referring to does not specifically mention poker in the text, poker is included as gambling by assumption, and if it is shown that poker is a game of skill, it would fall outside of the definition of gambling, and the law would not be able to be applied to poker.

    This is a test that can only be done in court, when there is a defendant to try it. it can't be challenged preemptively, and until it is applied to someone, it is moot.

    2) And the law in WA that I was referring to was authored by a Democrat, passed by a Democratic controlled legislature, and signed by a Democrat Governor . . . . no party is on our side in this issue until they get paid. Those Democrats in WA responsible for this particular legislation, including the author of the bill and the Governor who signed it into law, take campaign money from Indian tribes with gambling interests, particularly the Tulalip Tribe.

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    It is illegal to online gamble in Washington State. I had money in a EZPAY account when it was busted. I was never prossicuted but I lost all of the money and since then I quit on line gambeling .. http://www.wsgc.wa.gov/faq/internet_gambling.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moab View Post
    It is illegal to online gamble in Washington State. I had money in a EZPAY account when it was busted. I was never prossicuted but I lost all of the money and since then I quit on line gambeling .. http://www.wsgc.wa.gov/faq/internet_gambling.pdf
    This is true, it is illegal to gamble online in Washington State. However, if you actually read the pamphlet you have linked, you will find the three criteria required for it to be considered gambling . . . . one of those elements being chance. It is also clearly stated that removal of one of the three elements makes it not gambling by definition, which brings us back to the debate over skill vs luck.

    Unless someone is actually charged with illegal online gambling for playing online poker, the law is moot. If that time does come, an opportunity will come to finally define poker in it's proper category.

    The illegal gambling charges against the "big three" could play a role in this debate, depending on how those cases turn out this state law could be strengthened or weakened.

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