Freedom - You dont know what the word means.

**motherfunky** · 03-21-2010, 05:23 PM

It makes me cringe so many people "believe" they are free and have some sort of self determination, the truth is so far removed from what has been downloaded into your brains from the Television that you are nothing more than parrots repeating just what you heard last night on the box of truth.

An incredible brain more powerful than even the biggest super computer, reduced to nothing more than a bag of puss on the end of your spinal column.

Most of you are so dumbed down you cant even see what situation you're in, whilst you "believe" you are free it is impossible for you to rebel. Your masters even brag about how they want you incapable of revolt, they publish how they are doing it. It doesn't matter though because you are just another member of a great big Global Cult and anyone who says any different is a very bad man, probably a terrorist.

Cancer rates up 10 fold, thats ok, dementia rates soaring, whoo hoo, sperm counts falling, so what, mass murder in Iraq, no problem, torture camps, everything is just fine, massive debts of paper, big deal, naked body scanners at airports, lovely.

All you can do is beg the Government to help, look to the Corporations to give you a living because you have been so hopelessly disabled you cant even think it should be possible to look after yourselves. And all the while its the Government/Corporations that are screwing you into the ground.

So when the fuck are you going to wake up, or do you need a license to do that?

Just curious, rant over.

**bluffmanxx** · 03-21-2010, 08:13 PM

OK, most don't really get absolute freedom...but wtf is squark??

seriously MF, the world could not handle absolute, 100% freedom. do you think it would work??

our complex society requires tradeoffs to function smoothly. so we end up with degrees of freedom.

yes, i agree that as a whole we are becoming less free and more dependent, but as individuals we still can make choices to make us more, or less free even though we in the U.S. seem to have one less choice as of today....

**WinJStar** · 03-21-2010, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by bluffmanxx

seriously MF, the world could not handle absolute, 100% freedom. do you think it would work??

agreed

**billynomates** · 03-21-2010, 11:30 PM

seriously MF, the world could not handle absolute, 100% freedom. do you think it would work??

agree

**Niccivan** · 03-22-2010, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by bluffmanxx

yes, i agree that as a whole we are becoming less free and more dependent, but as individuals we still can make choices to make us more, or less free even though we in the U.S. seem to have one less choice as of today....

Yeah.... and it begins....

**skyguy2007** · 03-22-2010, 04:32 AM

All depends how literal you take things, we've never been "FREE", anytime you start forming family units, town units, government units, freedoms are sacrificed for other benefits, the question is where is the fine line?

Couple things bout a couple things, cancer isn't up 10 times vs. world population, we have developed tools to detect cancers unfound in the past. Dementia rates have not exploded at all, we simply now know why we used to call some older people crazy. Sperm counts falling...LMAO. Mass murder in the middle east, nothings changed in thousands of years...torture camps, same thing. Massive paper debt, all governments have been developed on the Bernie Madoff system, his problem was not being a government or country.

**bluffmanxx** · 03-22-2010, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by skyguy2007

all governments have been developed on the Bernie Madoff system, his problem was not being a government or country.

no shit. if corporations or individuals did the things government does on a regular basis, they would be tried and convicted. but when the government does it, the same individulas who would be leading the charge against the corporations or individuals scream "more, more".

**motherfunky** · 03-23-2010, 01:25 AM

Call me a freak but I think people should be free to do whatever they want as long as they don't impose their beliefs on others or deprive others of life or property.

We seem to have the polar opposite.

Not sure wtf squark is doug... I was dictating to Mrs Funky that's my excuse

**Moab** · 03-23-2010, 07:23 AM

Freedom is directly related to your economic and social standing. The more wealth you have and your standing within the world community the freer you are. This isn't freedom, it's what we believe is freedom yet in reality you become a slave to which you possess which you believe will make you free.

The closest to pure freedom is doing like Jesus and giving up the worldly possessions and social standing then live to help those less fortunate than you and leave a small foot print on the Mother Earth. Teach others to respect our planet while enjoying what she has to offer love her and when you pass through the door of life, do so knowing you have done your best.

**bluffmanxx** · 03-23-2010, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by motherfunky

Call me a freak but I think people should be free to do whatever they want as long as they don't impose their beliefs on others or deprive others of life or property.

We seem to have the polar opposite.

Not sure wtf squark is doug... I was dictating to Mrs Funky that's my excuse

are you saying that my freedom to impose my beliefs on on others and to deprive them of life and property is going to be restriced?? guess then we actually agree that we have to settle on what degree of freedom is acceptable...