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    Rogue nations like the Philippines?

    "Talk about war being 'hell,' this war beats the hottest estimate ever made of that locality. Caloocan was supposed to contain seventeen thousand inhabitants. The Twentieth Kansas swept through it, and now Caloocan contains not one living native. Of the buildings, the battered walls of the great church and dismal prison alone remain. The village of Maypaja, where our first fight occurred on the night of the fourth, had five thousand people on that day, -- now not one stone remains upon top of another. You can only faintly imagine this terrible scene of desolation. War is worse than hell."--Captain Elliott, of the Kansas Regiment, February 27th
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    Gadaffi has been a dictator for years, the rest of the World has done business with him, reluctantly, maybe. Zixi go look up the parallels with Iran where Carter decided to 'lend a hand'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziximania View Post
    Look up the origins of the so called NCLO (made in London) look up all the claims made in this blog...
    From the very beginning the US-backed Libyan unrest played out in oafish measures, ed along by the most irresponsible, intellectually dishonest "journalism" to date. A week before the unrest began, it was the the London based National Conference of Libyan Opposition (NCLO) that called for the February 17th "Day of Rage," not Libyans in the streets of Tripoli or Benghazi.
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    Look up the meaning of Orwellian.

    It just pisses me off why people are so stupid they spend all their time arguing if we should be doing "good" or not, the talking points are a distraction... this is out and out WAR.

    Oh yeah WAR moab can support which makes it even more dangerous. You idiots need to read some history or get a basic education of real World reality.
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    I agree with you all well said xoxo muah and a big ol pat on the ass for you guys.. as I have said many times..I am not good at this political stuff but in my comments on this blog is.... I was just trying to share my point of view on helping people. Many say why Libya ... why don't we help this country or they need our help more/no fair, not knowing the hell Libyans have gone through before this uprising..all I can say is we have to start somewhere and these people didn't just decide to become rebels for no reason...read about the events in which led them here.Maybe a post by a man will help you to open your eyes and mind.... My hands are washed... xoxo
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    And the conflict that is raging in Libya seems in important ways very much unlike the events in Tunisia and Egypt. The anti-Khadafi forces were armed from almost the very beginning of the uprising and included elements of the military. Unlike the opponents of Egypt's President Mubarak, we know very little about who these rebel Libyans are -- except that they have been getting lots of material help from the Americans and the French and other Europeans. It is also becoming clearer by the day that a vicious, racist pogrom is raging against the 1.5 million sub-Saharan Black African migrant workers who do the hard jobs in Libya, work that is rejected by the relatively prosperous Libyans. Hundreds of Black migrant workers have already been killed by anti-Khadafi forces -- yet the U.S. corporate media express absolutely no concern for their safety. One Western report noted that large numbers of Black Africans were seized in Benghazi and were assumed to have been hanged. That is a war crime, whether these men were soldiers or migrant workers, but the Western correspondent seemed unconcerned. One suspects there are many atrocities occurring in the rebel-held areas of Libya, especially against people that are not members of the locally dominant tribe. Benghazi is not Tahrir Square in Cairo.

    How convenient that most of the Libyan voices we hear on corporate media call for armed western intervention. How in synch with the increasing American and European threats of "no-fly zones" and amphibious naval actions -- all, of course, for humanitarian reasons, rather than having something to do with the fact that Libya is a major producer of some of the world's sweetest crude oil.
    This is a point of view from the other side, not saying I agree with it but there's no doubt that there's retaliation killings and little doubt a lot more people are worse off since NATO decided this was a war that it was 'justified' in joining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziximania View Post
    I agree with you all well said xoxo muah and a big ol pat on the ass for you guys.. as I have said many times..I am not good at this political stuff but in my comments on this blog is.... I was just trying to share my point of view on helping people. Many say why Libya ... why don't we help this country or they need our help more/no fair, not knowing the hell Libyans have gone through before this uprising..all I can say is we have to start somewhere and these people didn't just decide to become rebels for no reason...read about the events in which led them here.Maybe a post by a man will help you to open your eyes and mind.... My hands are washed... xoxo
    Im guessing you are typing in red because you are mad?

    Of course you are entitled to your opinion, I think its very naive thats all. Can you imagine if Russia or China were bombing and invading countries all over the place, would you believe it was "for their own good" I mean if any other Government or individual "claimed" to have killed Bin Laden and then dumped his body in the sea would you believe them?

    Just because you have been subjected to your cultures propaganda for years doesnt mean you have the nicest Government, the best Religion, the most honest Justice system etc. You're brainwashed thats all, no better than the idiots who become suicide bombers.

    Read the blog I linked to and verify for yourself if the claims are correct.
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    omg gosh, I thought Ziximania was kidding, sorry for my cute comment Zix. kisses hugs and pats

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    lol Billybob you didn't do nor say anything wrong laughing at my outlook is so much nicer than what most do daily... nothin but love babe While I am here I might as well defend myself.... I do not see my self better than Libyans Billy no mate, I see myself more blessed and have a much easier life than they do is all, so therefor I have compassion on them. I am glad you are man enough to say you do think you are better and Motherfunky... this is where we agree to disagree.
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    Billy no mate, I see myself more blessed and have a much easier life than they do is all, so therefor I have compassion on them. I am glad you are man enough to say you do think you are better.
    I never said I consider myself better than them. I don't consider myself clever enough to judge. You consider yourself more blessed and have a much easier life. As I've stated there are parallels to Iran/Carter. ps So you think the people of Iran are now blessesd? There is little doubt that the revolutionaries will bring in full Sharia law- giving them less freedom than the little they already have. Should Gadaffi be replaced? probably- should Obama be acting against the law of the Constitution to bring about his downfall and put in place , what?
    Once he decides one part of your constitution is not worth adhering to, how long before he decides others aren't worth it either?
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    Quote Originally Posted by motherfunky View Post

    I mean if any other Government or individual "claimed" to have killed Bin Laden and then dumped his body in the sea would you believe them?
    You may of missed the post mother, but I posted my entire theory on the assault on Bin Ladens compound, and believe he was taken alive!! If we did kill him, it is the DUMBEST thing we have ever done. I do not believe we are that stupid.

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