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This is a discussion on The Death Penalty? within the The Political and Social Snake Pit forums, part of the Current Happenings category; Originally Posted by billynomates I think prison is a lot worse in US than in UK to be honest. Originally ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by billynomates View Post
    I think prison is a lot worse in US than in UK to be honest.
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    Prison is not suppose to be good!!!! People in prison should not have it good, now they sit and watch color TV, we feed them, clothe them, furnish health care etc at a huge cost to the taxpayers. Why should they have it good?
    In the UK, I know of people who have had good experiences in prison that they would rather be there than out in the community, leading them to commit petty crimes in order to get another stint in prison. This is certainly true for those who come out and are homeless. Prison not only then provides a roof over their head, but food in their stomachs, an income through prison jobs, education, health care. Even those who commit horrendous crimes and are let out, find it a struggle, reoffend because they want to go back.

    Prisons these days do not seem to "punish". I don't believe in the death penalty. It didn't work in this country before and I don't believe in a humane death for people who not deserve it. Would rather see them rot. Unfortunately, human rights does not allow for this to happen. I think there should be a clause in human rights that says anyone who takes a life gives up their human rights.

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    What see she but i do believe in the death penalty if the crime and evidence warrants it.

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    A father who repeatedly raped his two daughters and fathered nine babies with them during a 35-year orgy of physical and sexual abuse escaped detection due to a litany of failings by care professionals, a report revealed today.
    This deserve the death penalty Billybob?

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    If it was my daughter he married, or my granddaughters, he would be dead!! Does that answer ur question?

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    A “depraved” man said
    to believe that only he and his offspring would survive the end of the world is to go on trial charged with fathering six children with his own daughters.

    Aswad Ayinde, 51, who describes himself as a film-maker and soft-drink entrepreneur, is accused of raping five of his daughters and making three of them pregnant.

    Authorities describe Mr Ayinde, also known as Eric McGill, as a “blueblood” engaged in a perverse attempt to keep his bloodline pure.

    “He said the world was going to end, and it was just going to be him and his offspring and that he was chosen,” his ex-wife, Beverly, testified at a recent hearing.
    Joseph Del Russo, a prosecutor, said: “The witnesses’ statements describe a depraved parent with a Messianic complex.” Some of the children produced through the incestuous unions suffer health problems.

    Mr Ayinde eluded child welfare investigators by moving from town to town in New Jersey and Florida from 1985 to 2002. He allegedly beat his children with boards and kicked them with steel-capped boots to stop them speaking about the rapes.

    Many of the alleged rapes took place when the family was living in an abandoned funeral home in Paterson, New Jersey. Mr Ayinde reportedly renovated a room for himself but forced the rest of his family to live in the dilapidated portion of the building.

    Some of the babies were delivered at home. Two died, while those that survived never obtained birth certificates and were home-schooled.

    Beverly Ayinde, who had nine children with her husband, said: “He was having regular relationships with all the girls. I wasn’t fighting back. I was afraid to fight back. I was afraid to ever accuse him of being demented or being a paedophile. I knew the word, but I wouldn’t dare use it because it would result in a beating.”

    Mr Ayinde was arrested in 2006 and has been held on a $1 million (Ł660,000) bond after arriving for a hearing with a woman and child despite a ban on contact with children.

    Starting next month, he faces separate trials for the alleged rape of each of his five daughters
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    Yep I'd bring the death penaly back

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    Shameless sensationalism!! We all know there are scum amongst us. That's not news.

    The point is: If you can live with the fact that just one innocent soul can perish under the present system, well.....you've got a stronger constitution then I.

    If you can make an argument FOR capital punishment under present conditions....we're listening. To continue posturing about how you'd kill someone who has violated your family members
    or sighting grotesque acts committed by deranged wretches.. only states the obvious. You want a pound of flesh. We all do.

    The jury is out on dumb fucking mistakes or corruption within the system..It happens AND it happens a lot.

    Do you believe that or not?

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    The thing is today Shameless sensationalism is news. How many TV companies led the news with the Tiger Woods story relegating important news to lower spots? I don't like it , you may not like it but it's a fact! Of course there's corruption within the system. I heard a tale about some two-bit chicago lawyer who did a corrupt deal with a gangster buying a house on the cheap- and he bluffed his way out of it!

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    The mother and stepfather of a seven-year-old girl who starved to death were jailed for manslaughter today.

    Khyra Ishaq died in May 2008 following an infection after months of starvation at her home in Handsworth, Birmingham, despite there being a plentiful supply of food in the home and visits from social services in the weeks before she died.

    Her mother Angela Gordon, 35, and her mother’s former partner Junaid Abuhamza, 30, were initially tried for her murder but, after a number of weeks of evidence and a psychiatric assessment, prosecutors at Birmingham Crown Court accepted their pleas of not guilty.

    Both admitted manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility and five counts of child cruelty relating to five other children, who cannot be identified for legal reasons
    Today Gordon was sentenced to 15 years and Abuhamza was jailed indefinitely with a minimum term of 7˝ years at Birmingham Crown Court. Neither defendant showed any emotion.

    During the trial, jurors heard harrowing evidence about the Khyra’s short life.

    She was beaten and locked in a garden shed if she broke house rules. On the rare occasions that Khyra and her siblings were fed, they were given dry bread or porridge, in one shared bowl, which they had to eat with their hands on the floor.
    More sensationalism! UGH

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