The Death Penalty?

[bluffmanxx]

There's nothing wrong with someone changing their opinion... for instance I used to believe in Global Warming until I looked at the facts and actually thought about it.

That might make an interesting thread, "has the Pit ever changed your opinion"

i also "wanted" to believe in global warming, after all it was/is getting warmer and CO2 is a greenhouse gas and there is more of it now...it all seemed so simple. as i did more and more research, i saw all sorts of problems with the AGW theory. bottom line, bad science used to reach a predetermined conclusion with a small bit of truth to fall back on. IMO if the warming as been 1 degree, the AGW part is maybe 1/10 of a degree - not enough to be concerned with and the real issue is not enough so that eliminating the human caused fraction will "stop" climate change. i had to move past the initial emotional reaction.

on that same emotional level it's still easy to say "kill the fucker" in death penalty cases, but i've moved beyond that. do i believe that some cases are so terrible that a person "deserves" a death sentence?? sure do...but i just don't think it's the best option. problem is, many of the options i'd like to see are not on the table, so given available options the death penalty may be the "best" one.

guess what i'm saying is you won't find me in an anti death penalty protest, but i do believe there are better ways to deal with the perps who commit terrible crimes.

[kazza1985]

There's nothing wrong with someone changing their opinion... for instance I used to believe in Global Warming until I looked at the facts and actually thought about it.

That might make an interesting thread, "has the Pit ever changed your opinion"

Didn't say there was anything wrong in it. Just asking when his opinion changed.

[maverick35]

Old Mav realizes exactly now if u had penalized the Saints the death penalty would that have helped the Vikes win and so old Mav realizes exactly probably no not they r exactly such a bunch of bumbling racist N**is butt then old Mav realizes exactly whut is death to people who no not mind dieing who like being dead like even old Mavs own parents and so every day there is a daily death list and so obituary page in the local news paper u think death bothers those people and so old Mav realizes the conspiracy against old Mav and so the J*wish people and so Israel is far greater and so far biger than a mere death penalty and so old Mav realizes like the rumor the Turks killed 1.5 million Armenians in W W II and so old Mav read where a American congresionial comitee decided to call it and so label it genocide and so Turkey recalled its own ambassador from Washington and so u think that is the death penalty and so u all like to think and so pretend to be hypocrites about the death penality and so make it a moral isue butt does any body ever make it a morale isue how old Mav is cheated attacked E E T T strangled and so hypnotized and so no not and so u r all so smart like Oxford Dons Lords Rhodes scholars gentle men whutever and so u think u know where the fine line is to all this butt they beter hope old Mav no not geta a miracle and so they make find out off where the fine line is to all this and so a little and so a lota too late and so exactly it is no not where they think and so believe it is whutever and so for those R B who think and so believe it is all right RIGHT to push pressure persecute whutever and so old Mav and so they may pay dearly for it and so lucky for old Mav they no not take old Mav seriously and so old Mav needs a miracle butt go ahead show off and so prove u know where your own fine line is cuz u may find out off much to your own dis belief horor realization whutever and so that old Mav may have the power to re draw the fine line some place else where u think u r such goodie goodie two 2 shoes u think old Mav may no not do that then u may find out off exactly whut it means might makes right RIGHT and so cuz u think u gota the might well u do now butt they beter hope old Mav no not geta the might if old Mav geta a miracle then u may find out off the bible so on whutever and so about old Mav and so whut J*wish people is and so Israel is which u all laugh laff at may be a lota more horibly real then u think and so thought whutever and so it wuz cuz old Mav and so the J*wish and so Israel have no not never gota a miracle before and so lucky for me old mav this gives them a false feeling about it and so that may be their own human nature flaw butt they may find out off too late how fatal it is that old Mav predicts it is which they claim is just more of the storys bibles things whutever and so r all myths things whutever and so that hold no not any real value sense things whutever and so being Irish is all u need be which old Mav no not may be and so stuff like that and so go ahead joke about the death penalty that way maner u may find out off too late to your own horors that there is far far far worse than the death penalty and so dieing no not bothers those people in the daily obituary page of the local news paper and so they think and so believe the bible holds no not any real meaning and so value whutever and so they beter hope they r right RIGHT and so if old Mav ever geta a miracle they may find out off much to their own real horors the bible may hold a lota more meanings and so values whutever and so than they think it does whutever and so go ahead and so laugh laff at the bible cuz some day u may be sory a lota more sory than u may ever realize u may be at this time whutever and so lucky for old Mav they do no not think the bible holds any real meaning and so value whutever and so lucky for old Mav they no not take old Mav seriously and so old Mav needs a miracle sorry right... sorry old Mav

[ColdCase]

Talk about counter productive!!

I want to read it...but the above post shows such flagrant disrespect for the reader, that I won't read it out of principle.

Space it out, Slinger!!

Oh wait...maybe I'm missing the point: It's an experimental, run-on neo sentence...hold on...lemme youtube John Cage to accompany this oeuvre.

[motherfunky]

Surely we can afford to send death penalty type offenders to prison like Lucas said throw away the key... then if it turns out to be a bad conviction you can ask your next door neighbour if you can have your key back.

Didn't say there was anything wrong in it. Just asking when his opinion changed.

I so knew that was coming Kaza... i didn't say you did say there was anything wrong in it
dont tell me you didnt say i did say you did say FFS

[Moab]

I may live with it ....... "BUT" the wrongly accused can't.

Life in prison without parole is fair and just punishment. If anyone thinks Charles Manson, regardless of what he said, is having fun in prison you have another thing coming.

[Niccivan]

I may live with it ....... "BUT" the wrongly accused can't.

Life in prison without parole is fair and just punishment. If anyone thinks Charles Manson, regardless of what he said, is having fun in prison you have another thing coming.

He's breathing.... which is more than I can say for those who have been murdered.

[kazza1985]

I so knew that was coming Kaza... i didn't say you did say there was anything wrong in it
dont tell me you didnt say i did say you did say FFS

That would require far too much effort!

[VampireRed]

The people who commit cold blooded murder, deserve the death penalty, just imagine if some 1 murder a love one of yours, most people whould want the murder put to death,

[LadyWrestler]

This legal system in this country is seriously screwed up!!! In actual practice, I wouldn't be shocked at all to learn that 50% of the people convicted in our system shouldn't be. It's not much better than the old white stone - black stone system at this point...in my opinion. When a person is accused of any serious crime, they are beaten on by prosecutors until about 99% of them plead guilty to something just to ease the pressure, on themselves and/or other family members, whether they are guilty or not. I can't support the death penalty under the current circumstances! With a sensible justice system in place, I would...but I absolutely can't now.