Constitution under threat!

[GhostFromThePast]

Everyone has an agenda. It's the nature of the beast these days. If you've read my semi-dissertation about the crap that's going on in the Middle East, you'd understand that I think that our agenda over there is to end the destabilization of the region and prevent a very real and probable calamity that could occur if we ignore the situation altogether.

That Neocons thing... that's a bit out there, man. Too far out there for me. I mean, come on, it's ONE WEBSITE. That's no proof that politicians or our respective governments subscribe to that line of thought.

[motherfunky]

it's ONE WEBSITE. That's no proof that politicians or our respective governments subscribe to that line of thought.

Its not just reported on one website and the link I gave you is THEIR WEBSITE

Dont ignore inconveniant facts GFTP... google it or look it up on wikipedia

see who produced it

Present and former members include prominent members of the Republican Party and the Bush Administration, including Richard Armitage, William J. Bennett, Jeb Bush, Ellen Bork (the wife of Robert Bork), Dick Cheney, Zalmay Khalilzad, Lewis "Scooter'" Libby, Richard Perle, former U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. Many of the organization's ideas, and its members, are associated with the neoconservative movement. PNAC has seven full-time staff members, in addition to its board of directors

[Niccivan]

motherfunky....i saw your video like you requested Its unfortunate we have "bad seeds" in our police departments, and government. But what government doesnt? You cant base an entire society on a few bad people. I think those cops were wrong...but again I think that lady was wrong as well. The worst thing you can do is to resist an officer. just give them your papers..ID or whatever....and they'll let you get on your way if you were doing nothing wrong. Some people get on power trips and they like to abuse thier power. Lots of people get that way. I know I have done that on a smaller scale..and I'm sure all of us can we have at one point or another. The question is...is how those we push around handle it. Yes those cops were wrong....but that lady should have gotten her head out of her ass long enough to know she was fucking with the wrong guys. I dont think my government is "corrupt" but I dont they are all innocent either. Despite all the so called negatives....I still love this country and am proud to live here. And i still believe in God and to some extent organized religion if its for the right reasons. I love my church..and i love the communiuty it has built.

[Ark_Angel_1]

Well, one more for me to comment on!!

Having been a police officer in the Air Force, here's our motto to live by........'It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6!'

The video was not very clear to me and yes I read the story, but let me tell you first hand how this can happen, from a military police officer's point of view!!

As a female I was used as a decoy for many maneuvers. Why? I was the least unsuspected........I'm a female and I'm harmless!! So, they thought!! When in all actuality I had a weapon concealed on my body and was never searched for one, again I was harmless right? A long tall lean blonde with a knock out smile, what harm could I do?? A lot!! I could knock the balls off a gnat at 1200 meter's with a M-16!!!

So, one can never ass......ume one is harmless!! When you are given an order to show ID or spread eagle you better do it!! If I tell you to put your hands up and out so I can see your palms, you better do it!! If you don't comply you can beat your sweet ass I'm going to act on it!! I still had a family to go home to everyday, and I was going home!!

There is always 3 sides to every story: his, her's, and the truth!!! Don't judge the situation or the intensity until you have walked the walked and felt the anguish of the consquences you have to live with if you make the wrong decision!

[motherfunky]

Despite all the so called negatives....I still love this country and am proud to live here. And i still believe in God and to some extent organized religion if its for the right reasons. I love my church..and i love the communiuty it has built.

Love is good, hate not so good

Fucking Muslims, I hate em all.

I just hope Americans love their country enough to protect it.

[motherfunky]

That Neocons thing... that's a bit out there, man. Too far out there for me. I mean, come on, it's ONE WEBSITE. That's no proof that politicians or our respective governments subscribe to that line of thought.

proof = neocons website

are u serious they have never reported on PNAC in the States? it was witten in 1997

The PNAC Web site states the group's "fundamental propositions", which are[2]

* "American leadership is good both for America and for the world"
* "such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle"
* "too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership."

- Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush

Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes

Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle

Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz

Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen

Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz

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[Tiger Man]

What Constitution?



Oh, yeah...I remember, now.


Flush the neocons and the unAmerican 'Patriot' Act and maybe we'll have a chance of trying to live up to that document again and perhaps even be better neighbors.

[motherfunky]

"This [the U.S. Constitution] is likely to be administered for a course of years and then end in despotism... when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other."
Benjamin Franklin

"To understand free speech means freedom to speak what others do not like and even cannot stand to hear? ... Tolerating what you like is hardly a major achievement. Hitler tolerated what he liked. So did Stalin. Idi Amin did too. So did Genghis Khan, the Shah, and Henry Kissinger. Free speech only becomes an issue when someone says what others don't want to hear."
Michael Albert

"The point of public relations slogans like "Support our troops" is that they don't mean anything... That's the whole point of good propaganda. You want to create a slogan that nobody's going to be against, and everybody's going to be for. Nobody knows what it means, because it doesn't mean anything. Its crucial value is that it diverts your attention from a question that does mean something: Do you support our policy? That's the one you're not allowed to talk about."
Noam Chomsky

"No matter how paranoid or conspiracy-minded you are, what the government is actually doing is worse than you imagine."
William Blum

"Once the war against Saddam begins, we expect every American to support our military, and if they can't do that, to shut Up."
Bill O'Reilly, Fox News