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The Queen of England has agreed to let the people pretend to choose a Government, after being given a choice of two retards the voting will be held on May 6 when a buch of busy body old people with nothing better to do will count up all the votes probablly taking all fucking night to do it.
Of course the result will be that David Cameron will win the retard contest, and so the show goes on.
Does anyone give a shit?
Last edited by Ezzz; Today at 06:50 AM.
You could be wrong, Clegg could put Brown back in, but you are right, it's the most boring election campaign I've ever known, between the three of them they haven't got the personality of an empty plastic bag
Five Reasons Why American Conservatives Should be Worried about Nick Clegg
Five Reasons Why American Conservatives Should be Worried about Nick Clegg [Nile Gardiner]
Thursday night will see the second of three U.S.-style televised debates between the leading candidates in the upcoming British general election: Gordon Brown, David Cameron, and Nick Clegg. The focus this time will be on foreign policy, making the debate of direct relevance to U.S. viewers, who will be able to watch live on C-Span.
As Tim Montgomerie noted in an excellent earlier post, Nick Clegg, the leader of the Liberal Democrats, was widely judged to have won the last debate, on domestic-policy issues (though he failed to offer any real policy solutions), and his party has leapfrogged the ruling Labour Party into second place in the polls behind the Conservatives. Clegg is largely unknown outside of the U.K., but if his party does well on Election Day, he could hold the balance of power in Westminster, and the Liberals could form part of a coalition government if no single party has a ruling majority. This would potentially give Clegg an important say in British foreign policy.
I’ve already described Clegg as the anti-Churchill of British politics, and he is without a doubt the most left-wing major party leader in Britain in a generation. There is some common ground between Clegg’s views and those of the Obama administration, but I think even the current liberal White House would balk at some of Clegg’s extreme positions. Here are five key reasons why U.S. conservatives should be concerned by Clegg’s foreign policy if his party does form part of the next British government:
1. Clegg’s outlook is anti-American.
Clegg, a major opponent of the Iraq War, has made a number of statements calling for a completely new relationship with the United States and an end to what he mockingly calls London’s “subservience” to Washington. He rejects the idea of a “special relationship” with America, and believes that the top priority for Britain is to strengthen ties with a federal Europe.
2. Clegg is not an Atlanticist.
Clegg has called for an end to “default Atlanticism,” and has shown barely any interest in the transatlantic alliance. His party manifesto does not even mention NATO. As Clegg put it in a flagship speech in March: “Our strategic interests will not be served unless we release ourselves from that spell of default Atlanticism which has prevailed so strongly since Suez.”
3. Clegg does not believe in a nuclear deterrent.
Clegg has called for the scrapping of Britain’s trident nuclear deterrent and is firmly opposed to the use of force against Iran’s nuclear facilities as a last resort if sanctions fail. His national-security outlook is extremely weak in the face of mounting threats from rogue regimes, and he has been a fierce critic of key aspects of the U.S.-led War on Terror.
4. Clegg is a fervent supranationalist.
A former European Commission bureaucrat and a strong supporter of the Lisbon Treaty, Clegg firmly believes that Britain must give up key aspects of national sovereignty in Europe, including the pound, and supports the EU having a unified foreign policy and defense identity. He is a big believer in the power of supranational institutions such as the United Nations and summed up his views on sovereignty in a speech at Chatham House: “Globalization requires us to formulate a system of supranational governance capable of controlling forces which escape the limitations of the nation state.”
5. Clegg harbors strong anti-Israeli views.
To describe Clegg as a vociferous opponent of Israel would be an understatement — I’ve written in greater detail on this issue here. Clegg has penned a number of articles condemning Israel’s handling of Gaza, and has been the most prominent British critic of Israel’s response to Hamas attacks. He has alleged that the Israeli government “continues to imprison 1.5 million Palestinians and prevent the rebuilding of its shattered infrastructure,” and supports the U.N.’s use of the highly offensive term “collective punishment.” Clegg has drawn parallels between Israel’s defensive actions and the terrorist campaigns of groups such as Hamas, and has urged the European Union in the past to isolate and even sanction Israel.
what matters most in life is honesty. it's never wrong to do the right thing.
Clegg would be a disaster, unfortunately most Brits don't understand politis only get involved at an election. 40% want a 'hung 'parliament ! this is where say The Cons get 46% Lib get 33% and Lab get 17% others split between minorities, Lib can join with Lab and freeze Cons out even though majority have voted for them!
Labour anticipating this are sucking up to the Libs, licking their boots
In defence of Nick Clegg he clearly has the best looking wife of the three and on a more trivial note a hung Parliment should mean any subsequent Government would struggle to "get things done" so that's a bonus.
Last edited by Ezzz; Today at 06:50 AM.
yep he has the best looking wife and the most intelligent but this government done nothing positive
Yes and this Government is a Labour Government and Gordon Brown is the Prime Minister, we were talking about Nick Clegg and his band of merry Liberals of course they all sing from the same hymn book at the end of the day when all the promises are broken.
Im gonna vote UKIP if I can be arsed, see if I can help them get their deposit back.
Last edited by Ezzz; Today at 06:50 AM.
lol i'm voting ukip
put message on times website today, people should vote what they believe in and not tactical voting. UKIP have no chance of winning but they got my vote
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