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    Blizzard of Lies

    I found this article to be informative. I have included the link for those who like to go to the source and also copy and pasted for those who prefer not to click on links.

    The New York Times

    September 12, 2008
    OP-ED COLUMNIST

    Blizzard of Lies
    By PAUL KRUGMAN

    Did you hear about how Barack Obama wants to have sex education in kindergarten, and called Sarah Palin a pig? Did you hear about how Ms. Palin told Congress, "Thanks, but no thanks" when it wanted to buy Alaska a Bridge to Nowhere?

    These stories have two things in common: they're all claims recently made by the McCain campaign -- and they're all out-and-out lies.

    Dishonesty is nothing new in politics. I spent much of 2000 -- my first year at The Times -- trying to alert readers to the blatant dishonesty of the Bush campaign's claims about taxes, spending and Social Security.

    But I can't think of any precedent, at least in America, for the blizzard of lies since the Republican convention. The Bush campaign's lies in 2000 were artful -- you needed some grasp of arithmetic to realize that you were being conned. This year, however, the McCain campaign keeps making assertions that anyone with an Internet connection can disprove in a minute, and repeating these assertions over and over again.

    Take the case of the Bridge to Nowhere, which supposedly gives Ms. Palin credentials as a reformer. Well, when campaigning for governor, Ms. Palin didn't say "no thanks" -- she was all for the bridge, even though it had already become a national scandal, insisting that she would "not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project or any other into something that's so negative."

    Oh, and when she finally did decide to cancel the project, she didn't righteously reject a handout from Washington: she accepted the handout, but spent it on something else. You see, long before she decided to cancel the bridge, Congress had told Alaska that it could keep the federal money originally earmarked for that project and use it elsewhere.

    So the whole story of Ms. Palin's alleged heroic stand against wasteful spending is fiction.

    Or take the story of Mr. Obama's alleged advocacy of kindergarten sex-ed. In reality, he supported legislation calling for "age and developmentally appropriate education"; in the case of young children, that would have meant guidance to help them avoid sexual predators.

    And then there's the claim that Mr. Obama's use of the ordinary metaphor "putting lipstick on a pig" was a sexist smear, and on and on.

    Why do the McCain people think they can get away with this stuff? Well, they're probably counting on the common practice in the news media of being "balanced" at all costs. You know how it goes: If a politician says that black is white, the news report doesn't say that he's wrong, it reports that "some Democrats say" that he's wrong. Or a grotesque lie from one side is paired with a trivial misstatement from the other, conveying the impression that both sides are equally dirty.

    They're probably also counting on the prevalence of horse-race reporting, so that instead of the story being "McCain campaign lies," it becomes "Obama on defensive in face of attacks."

    Still, how upset should we be about the McCain campaign's lies? I mean, politics ain't beanbag, and all that.

    One answer is that the muck being hurled by the McCain campaign is preventing a debate on real issues -- on whether the country really wants, for example, to continue the economic policies of the last eight years.

    But there's another answer, which may be even more important: how a politician campaigns tells you a lot about how he or she would govern.

    I'm not talking about the theory, often advanced as a defense of horse-race political reporting, that the skills needed to run a winning campaign are the same as those needed to run the country. The contrast between the Bush political team's ruthless effectiveness and the heckuva job done by the Bush administration is living, breathing, bumbling, and, in the case of the emerging Interior Department scandal, coke-snorting and bed-hopping proof to the contrary.

    I'm talking, instead, about the relationship between the character of a campaign and that of the administration that follows. Thus, the deceptive and dishonest 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign provided an all-too-revealing preview of things to come. In fact, my early suspicion that we were being misled about the threat from Iraq came from the way the political tactics being used to sell the war resembled the tactics that had earlier been used to sell the Bush tax cuts.

    And now the team that hopes to form the next administration is running a campaign that makes Bush-Cheney 2000 look like something out of a civics class. What does that say about how that team would run the country?

    What it says, I'd argue, is that the Obama campaign is wrong to suggest that a McCain-Palin administration would just be a continuation of Bush-Cheney. If the way John McCain and Sarah Palin are campaigning is any indication, it would be much, much worse.
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    Wow, the NY Times is a pretty respectable paper. There must be some merit.

    There are always people out there to fling, but there is a big difference when the attacks are coming from the campaign camp itself.

    I think Obama has run his campaign with the utmost respect. In fact he was the first to speak out for Sarah Palin and state her family and personal life has no bearing in the job she will do in office. He went as far to say if anyone in his campaign was involved in bashing they would be fired.
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    What is getting me is all the silliness. The Republicans cannot stick to issues because they know the last four years have proven their incompetence, so they come up with things to "shock and awe" the unthinking masses. Let's not talk national security, health care, immigration or the economy. Let's talk about rumors about religion and nationality. The man's a Muslim! No, we take that back. He's a bad Christian! Doesn't matter! He's not even American! Anyone can fake a birth certificate, right??? Scratch beneath the surface of any one of those and you will find bigotry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simplycynthia View Post
    what is getting me is all the silliness. The republicans cannot stick to issues because they know the last four years have proven their incompetence, so they come up with things to "shock and awe" the unthinking masses. Let's not talk national security, health care, immigration or the economy. Let's talk about rumors about religion and nationality. The man's a muslim! No, we take that back. He's a bad christian! Doesn't matter! He's not even american! Anyone can fake a birth certificate, right??? Scratch beneath the surface of any one of those and you will find bigotry.


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    rum anyone????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major_Payne View Post
    rum anyone????
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    Please....pass me a shot! After all, I'm already an "unthinking mass." Might as well be drunk too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BerkB33 View Post
    Please....pass me a shot! After all, I'm already an "unthinking mass." Might as well be drunk too!
    Well, I suppose you can put me down in the "unthinking masses" as well. Pass the bottle!
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    Let's talk about rumors about religion and nationality. The man's a Muslim! No, we take that back. He's a bad Christian! Doesn't matter! He's not even American! Anyone can fake a birth certificate, right??? Scratch beneath the surface of any one of those and you will find bigotry.
    Since when has the search for the truth been bigotry?

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