911 vs Trivium and Liberal Liberty

[motherfunky]

I dont have any pre conceived ideas regarding 911 and the official BS conspiracy theory, but I thought it might be interesting to use trivium to deduce whether or not the official BS story carries any weight?


Do the "believers" in the official conspiracy theory still believe they were "given" the TRUTH regarding the events of 911 when confronted with so called evidence that included the finding of the lead hijackers PASSPORT amongst thousands of tonnes of rubble and dust?

Yes the passport in question revealed the evil mastermind behind the attack, but do the peons still believe a paper document can survive an impact and fire that would allegedly demolish three of the Worlds biggest buildings. And be FOUND DOUBLE quick (the next day), INTACT... with just a few singes around the edges?

[curtinsea]

as far as which side of this argument is the conspiracy and which is the truth, you and I will never agree. I've heard all of these same "inconsistancies" pointed out over and over again, but they always lack a common thread. I have yet to see anyone at any time come up with a credible scenario that ties all of the "inconsistancies" together into a "consistant" and cohesive theory of what really happened.

It's fine to point to all these different things, but if you can't stitch it together, your story is far less believable than the "official conspiracy" theory.

[motherfunky]

Curt im not stitching anything together im just trying to be objective with regard to the official conspiracy theory. The official Conspiracy theory requires you to accept a paper passport can survive a high speed impact and fire ball, and can somehow be retrieved from hundreds of tonnes of debris.

We know paper burns at a lower temp than steel, and we know there were biliions of pieces of paper scattered everywhere, is it realistic to find such a document intact given what it supposedly went through?

[curtinsea]

Do the "believers" in the official conspiracy theory still believe they were "given" the TRUTH regarding the events of 911 when confronted with so called evidence that included the finding of the lead hijackers PASSPORT amongst thousands of tonnes of rubble and dust?

Yes the passport in question revealed the evil mastermind behind the attack, but do the peons still believe a paper document can survive an impact and fire that would allegedly demolish three of the Worlds biggest buildings. And be FOUND DOUBLE quick (the next day), INTACT... with just a few singes around the edges?

http://www.911myths.com/html/passport_recovered.html

[motherfunky]

Curt I cant remember the guys name but I heard an american chap explain what debunking was, he asked members of his audience what their names were. When the names were spoken he simply said "no it isnt"

Bearing this definition in mind for you to continually post links to so called debunking pages which say nothing other than in effect "no it isnt" is really just an example of your in ability to reason for yourself.

[motherfunky]

Basically I think you deliberately search out read anything that agrees with your appeal to authority so you can feel content again

[curtinsea]

Curt I cant remember the guys name but I heard an american chap explain what debunking was, he asked members of his audience what their names were. When the names were spoken he simply said "no it isnt"

Bearing this definition in mind for you to continually post links to so called debunking pages which say nothing other than in effect "no it isnt" is really just an example of your in ability to reason for yourself.

How do you even say that to me with a straight face? You have offered nothing new, nothing of your own ideas, nothing of your own work. All you are doing is repeating the same shit that has circulated for nearly ten years, without adding one iota of new information or thought of your own. I post links to "debunking" sites to save myself the trouble of retyping what has already been said for nearly ten years myself.

Your stuff is so rehashed that it can be googled verbatim and a dozen "debunking" sites come up on the first page. I'm not trying to prove anything, and I don't need to be agreed with to feel content. You can cast doubt on any and every detail of the "official version", but you can't disprove it, nor can you offer a compelling alternate theory.

All of which makes a thread like this one noting more than mental masturbation.

[motherfunky]

So basically you BELIEVE that the passport in question survived the impact and fire ball and was FOUND amongst MILLIONS of documents and MILLIONS of tonnes of rubble and presented as evidence, it must be true because they pulled the same stunt in ALL the other attacks LOL somehow this BS rings true with you??... yeah and I bet you think poker sites aren't fixed

I bet you also BELIEVE the official BS line that no-one could have predicted such an attack??? yeah yeah of course why waste my breath im sure there is a debunking site you can GOOGLE to pleasure yourself with.

Use your OWN brain to come to conclusions rather than use logical fallacies (your post is like a list of them) to attack facts just because It isnt my first hand information... I didnt discover the passport myself ???. Your arguments are tainted.

[curtinsea]

Use your OWN brain to come to conclusions rather than use logical fallacies (your post is like a list of them) to attack facts just because It isnt my first hand information... I didnt discover the passport myself ???. Your arguments are tainted.

Childish MF, just plain childish . . . you rehash someone else's work and then you tell me not to use someone else's work to counter it. I laugh at that.

Yes I believe it is possible that it survived the impact, was likely tossed in the air free of the fireball, and landed on the ground amongst all the rest of the paper on the ground that survived the impact and was tossed in the air free of the fireball.

But a passport stands out amongst a bunch of white paper, so it is also beliveable that it would be spotted and found.

Less believable is that Mark Furman planted it to be used as evidence later lol

[motherfunky]

Incidentally your over use of the word verbatim??? hhmmmm with "rehashed" do you know what those words mean, seriously?, show me where any of my posts are all over the net VERBATIM. You are shooting in all directions because you are emotionally attached. You will never look at this subject objectively because you are a believer in the sense a Christian believes Jesus is of a Virgin Mother.