Now, I actually kind of like this guy and had, up to this point, found his excessive insistence that online poker is "rigged" somewhat entertaining. Not so much the accusations themselves, but more the fact that for years this guy hasn't changed his stance. He also never brings any more factual data than a simple 1 or 2 hand history/personal account to each argument. I will be blocking his name out of respect for those who can't be here to defend themselves. Here is a recent posting in which he was continuing his accusational, stubborn ways. Also included is a response from Nynus. In one single post, he was actually able to completely 180 my views on people consistently accusing sites like Luvin of being "rigged".....
I seriously just felt the need to give credit where it is due for such an insightful post from Nynus.
Here goes:
XXXXXXXXX Jun 30, 2011 10:46 pm
I have played live longer than most of you have been alive. I rarely if ever see cards like those. And if you do, then you are playing at a place that I have no desire to play. It s uncommon for those hands to play out like that live. So, quit telling people they are normal.
Nynus Jun 30, 2011 10:54 pm
XXXX, I've read a lot of your theories, looked thru a lot of your anecdotal 'evidence' and I'm pretty sure I could show you hard statistics, facts, figures, and analysis, until my eyes crossed. But that wouldn't make a dent would it? You hang on to the faith of rigged online poker with a devotion that would make Job himself look wishy washy. If that's your faith, far be it from me to try and convert you.
However, you might want to look at how your preaching might be perceived.
If I've read your posts correctly, you claim that the worst player, with the worst cards always win. Do you realize when you make that claim, you're categorizing many of your friends on this site as shitty players? In your opinion, if someone is making money and win when they play, then they must be playing lousy cards, sucking out, and playing like crap. That's pretty low. I don't even tell people I don't like that they suck at poker.
Then there's an issue of cheating. Have you ever watched an old western and seen how a friendly poker game turns instantly hostile when someone is accused of cheating? Did you ever wonder why?
Because a cheat is the lowest form of life to a real poker player. A player makes his living off of beating other people in a game where their skill is what makes them consistent money. Luck comes and goes, it can give you a bad week or a good one. But it will never pay the bills. Accusing someone of cheating is worse than accusing someone of stealing. You're saying they have no honor, are not be trusted, and don't play an honest game.
Since you're accusing poker sites of cheating, you're accusing the people that run and own those sites of being cheaters. Even worse, you're accusing the people that make money off of those sites of cheating. You're also spreading lies about someone's business because you're telling other potential players that they would be stupid to play where they were getting cheated.
Now I happen to know someone affiliated with Luvin Poker, and to call her a cheat is insulting in the least. Despicable, reprehensible, and irresponsible are some other words that come to mind, along with a few others I won't write here.
Hopefully, you weren't aware that some of your groundless accusations are taken like this by many people. If you were aware of it and doing it anyways, that doesn't say a lot about your character. Maybe this will open your eyes a bit. Maybe not. But it might help you understand why some people don't just laugh off your groundless accusations as the eccentricities of a colorful character.
I'm sure there will be the hue and cry of "He's just having fun." and "He's not hurting anyone."
That's my point. It's not fun; it's not humorous; and it sure as hell isn't harmless. It's insulting to those of us that try to make a living playing the game, and it's pissing on the people that have worked their ass off to give you a fun place to play, learn, and spend time with friends.
FishesChips Jun 30, 2011 11:08 pm
Wow Nynus! Putting things in that persepctive does give a whole new outlook on things such as this. I guess bringing individuals who some of us actually know well, and others play with on occasion, changes the rigged lol's to strongly worded public accusations of cheating. Whether or not it actually changes people's personal opinions, your statement brings to light personal feelings towards being called a cheater. I wholeheartedly agree with your entire statement and it has actually changed my point of view on the way I view rigged blogs. Thank you for the post.
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