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    Neteller Execs arrested

    The two founding directors of NETeller, Stephen Lawrence and John Lefebvre, were travelling separately in US when detained by authorities on Monday, 15 January.

    In a brief statement, the company says that other than as shareholders, neither of them have 'any current position with, or connection to, NETeller'.

    Lawrence resigned as a non-executive director of the company on 13 October, having stepped down as non-executive chairman last May. Lefebvre resigned as a non-executive director on 15 December 2005.

    Lawrence holds 5.91% of NETeller, while Lefebvre has a 5.54% stake.

    The company adds in its statement that it has 'not received any communication or correspondence from any US authority regarding this or any related matter'.

    Pending clarification of the situation, it has decided to suspend its shares.

    With over 3m customers in 160 countries and over $7bn in annual transactions, NETeller claims to operate the largest independent online money transfer business in the world. It specialises in providing instant payment services where money transfer is difficult or risky due to issues of identity, trust, currency exchange, or distance.

    While the exact reasons for the arrest of Lawrence and Lefebvre are unknown at present, it seems reasonable to speculate that it may have something to do with its past handling of funds for online gamblers in the US.

    In October the US passed into law a ban on internet gambling. The move followed months of uncertainty for the online gambling sector, triggered by the arrest in July of David Carruthers, chief executive of BETonSPORTS, for alleged infringement of US gambling laws.

    Carruthers' arrest was followed in September by the arrest of Peter Dicks, non-executive chairman of Sportingbet, on similar grounds.

    The arrest of the two directors sorely undermined sentiment towards the online gambling sector as a whole, with shares in other players with heavy exposure to the US, where the world's biggest online gamblers reside, also suffering badly.

    NETeller has also been feeling the heat. Two thirds of its customers are in the US and in October, as it revealed strong quarterly numbers, chief executive Ron Martin warned: ‘The impact of the recently passed Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act in the US is likely to change the future direction and nature of our business fundamentally.’

    At the time the group said trading since the end of September had continued to show ‘positive growth trends’ in sign ups and average daily receipts. Martin cautioned, however, that it was difficult to predict trends or the outcome for the remainder of the year ‘given the current uncertainty regarding the company's principal market’.

    The uncertainty and fallout from the banning of internet gambling in the US meant that over calendar 2006, NETeller shares lost almost four fifths of their value.

    Numis analyst Richard Carter says today’s news will dent sector sentiment but, given that NETeller was the only directly affected company continuing to carry out transactions in the US, he thinks any sell off in Playtech or 888.com shares (both have no assets and both take no bets from the US) could offer an 'excellent' buying opportunity.

    As for NETeller, Carter notes that despite today's news, its financial position remains strong. At the end of 2006, after accounting for $5m of cash exceptionals, he estimates the group will have $224.6m in net cash.

    For 2007, Carter forecasts the group will generate $47.5m of net operating cash despite taking a further cash exceptional of $3m. He is targeting 2007-year end net cash of $263.7m.

    Ahead of more developments, Numis is continuing to rate the stock as a 'buy' assuming that the shares are relisted..

    NETeller plans to update the market on its fourth quarter 2006 and first quarter 2007 this Thursday.

    By the time NETeller shares were suspended early this morning, they had fallen nearly 7% or 12.25p to 163.75p, valuing the company at £196m.

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    The arrests of the two founders of Neteller is sending chills through the spines of the millions who play a part in the online gambling industry.

    In the lengthy arrest report released earlier today we feel it necessary to point out a couple sections of particular interest and then analyze them. (Notice, this is not a legal assessment, just opinion based on observations.)

    8. As part of the investigation, law enforcement officers and a cooperating witness posed as gambling customers and conducted online monetary transactions with numerous online gambling businesses using online payment processing services provided by Neteller PLC. The following are examples of some of the transactions that I have either participated in or learned about:

    a. On or about August 12, 2006, a cooperating witness (the "CW"), who at the time was located in Miami, Florida, used a computer to open an account on Neteller.com (the "Neteller Account"), and the CW electronically transferred $400 from a bank account in Miami, Florida, into the Neteller Account. On or about August 22, 2006, the CW, who at the time was located in Miami, Florida, used a computer to open a wagering account with an online gambling business based in Antigua ("Online Gambling Business #1), by electronically transferring $400 from the Neteller Account to Online Gambling Business #1. On or about August 24, 2006, the CW, who at the time was located in Miami, Florida, used a computer to access Online Gambling Business #1's website, and the CW then wagered $250 on a National Football League ("NFL") football game and won approximately $200. On or about September 7, 2006, the CW, who at the time was located in Miami, Florida, used a computer to access Online Gambling Business #1's website, and the CW then wagered $250 on an NFL football game and lost $250.

    b. On or about September 26, 2006, I was present with the CW at a public library located in Westchester County, New York. At that time, I observed the CW access the Internet using a public computer at the library. The CW then used the computer to access Online Gambling Business #1's website, and the CW then withdrew $200 from his wagering account with Online Gambling Business #1 and transferred it electronically to the Neteller Account. Thereafter, the CW then placed a $50 wager on an NFL football game on Online Gambling Business #1's website using money that had previously been deposited with Online Gambling Business #1 using the Neteller Account.

    c. On or about December 29, 2006, in Westchester County, New York, I used a computer to access the Neteller Account by logging on to Neteller.com. At that time, the balance in the account was $100. I then transferred $25 from the Neteller Account to a wagering account with an online gambling business based in Costa Rica ("Online Gambling Business #2"). I then transferred $25 from the Neteller account to a wagering account with another online gambling business based in Costa Rica ("Online Gambling Business #3"). Then, I logged on to Online Gambling Business #1's website and used a link to Neteller.com to transfer $25 from the Neteller Account to the wagering account with Online Gambling Business #1 that previously had been opened by the CW."

    What is important to notice about these passages?

    a. - b. A Neteller account was opened in Miami, which is legal. Money was transferred to a Neteller account from a bank account in Miami, which is legal. The money was not transferred from the Neteller account to an offshore gambling operation until the person was physically present in New York, where there are specific laws against online gambling.

    The gambling was only stated to be on football, which is and has been proven to be illegal in the United States, therefore this part of the investigation occurring before the passing of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act in October is of little importance.

    c. In December, money was transferred from a Neteller account to two other forms of gambling entertainment sites, which are not stated, but may include online poker sites and/or online casinos. In December the UIGEA had already been passed, which makes these transactions illegal. The gray area is that the UIGEA states that the FRC has to define regulations for banks to follow within 270 days, that has not happened yet.

    Of course, Neteller has stated outright to their share holders that over 85% of their business is brought in from United States clients. That was stated, and then it was proven through a.-c. above that the money Neteller makes is exported to offshore gambling operations.

    Again, this is not legal analysis, just some observations. Also note, this is a major issue and we have four staffers who are heavily investigating all areas surrounding these arrests. We will report when we believe that we have an intelligent and unique point of view.

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    i checked the neteller website and did not see any mention of this or any sort of statement.

    just wanted to give everyone a heads up....this might not change anything but who knows??

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    Pokerstars and UltimateBet are declining deposits from US players from Neteller. Not sure on other sites, but the timing of this couldn't suck worse for me, as I just cleared my inital Fulltilt bonus and am looking for a new site to play at.

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    So now NetTeller is whimping out. Sounds like everyone had better bet wisely with whatever deposits they have already made. I wonder how much longer FT will allow REAL money poker for US peeps?


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    well Ultimate Bet might not be taking transactions from neteller...but they sure are taking deposits from my bank account and so is full tilt. I use my debit card. Poker stars accept insta checks from americans too.
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    Just got the note from Full Tilt.

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