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  • Worthy of a Warning?

    5 17.86%
  • Applaudable and More Power to them?

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  • This player should not be allowed to participate in future special events.

    12 42.86%
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Collusion During Special Event

This is a discussion on Collusion During Special Event within the Team Play & Special Events forums, part of the Poker! Poker! Poker! category; Well this place needed a good heated discussion. I got a ticket in the back today. With friends like this ...

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    Collusion During Special Event

    Well this place needed a good heated discussion. I got a ticket in the back today. With friends like this who need enemies? I can not believe someone saved an entire yahoo conversation a month apart and then reported his "pupil". Lin helped me edit this down as we felt it was important to remove the player's name. This is a very established player here in the forum being coached through 2 of our most important games.

    This brings collusion to a new level. So, what do you think? Acceptable? Certainly embarrassing for the player that he is so insecure about his game he literally requires coaching on every hand. I have heard of and even done it myself before where I ask a friend, "What do you think?', but nothing like this and certainly not for events like these. This below example is CRAZY!

    So, what do you think? As an LPI player and TOC player does this discredit any "wins". Do you feel, more power to him/her if they do succeed? The player in question I do know the identity of. I am not entire sure how the card room will handle it. It was from a fake Email account and was obviously someone bitter and pissed off trying to get someone in trouble. The subject of the report: "PLAYER COLLUSION ON LP". Also, since the contents were on yahoo, I am not sure the site could enforce it.

    This is something Mastro and I need to discuss. Is this punishable? Worthy of a warning? "Unable to participate in future Events" or "Applaudable"?

    The following are 2 big games separated by post. Its the longest, most boring/entertaining/interesting read ever. We protected said person, you could probably figure it out by little nuances here and there, but we tried our best to cover everything. Keep in mind, this is not about persecuting someone, so the who shouldn't matter (at this stage), this is more about ethics.

    Oh and haha, someone is misinformed, my fave hand is not 9K, it is 9J We also protected in most instances the players they spoke about. It wasn't about feelings, it was about giving away the person in question.


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    I have found out that player "XXXXX" has been cheating, by asking other players for help on every single hand of critical games in real time over IM's.



    Luvin poker*tournament of champions*3-7-2010




    player x: Js 7s

    coach : fold

    player x: 66

    coach: call

    coach: fold

    player x: 5s Js

    coach: fold

    player x: had Q2 off

    coach: ok, yea if its really bad just fold

    coach: unless ur on button

    player x: QJ off

    coach: call

    coach: fold

    player x: 89* Ds

    coach: check

    coach: check

    coach: fold

    player x: 7* 10 off

    coach: call the 25

    coach: fold

    player x: (barfing sound)

    player x: 6 10 off

    coach: fold

    player x: 4h Kh

    coach: raise 150

    coach: u really need to be faster

    player x: I was* a slow fuck

    coach: what u have

    player x: Im** here now

    player x: 67 off

    player x: folded

    coach: tell me what u have* when its on JENS BB

    player x: A 4 off

    coach: fold

    coach: anytime the bb is on Niccivan or Jen let me know what u have no madder what

    player x: 35 off

    coach: fold

    player x: jens favorite hand 9 K

    player x: 4h Jh

    coach: fold

    player x: 6 J off

    coach: fold

    coach: J 6 off

    coach: fold

    player x: 4* 8 off

    player x: call

    coach: check if no1 raises

    coach: fold

    player x: 4 9off

    coach: fold

    player x: 8 Q off

    coach: raise to 300

    coach: check

    coach: check

    coach: check

    coach: fold

    coach: hes got an ace

    coach: fold

    player x: had Q 4 spades

    coach: was good fold

    player x: A 10 off now

    coach: raise to 300

    player x: 9 Q off

    coach: fold

    player x: 6 9 off

    coach: fold

    coach: lol XXX is kicking ass

    player x: yup...he is my best friend on LP to

    player x: had 6 8 off by the way

    coach: ok

    player x: 4 9 s

    coach: fold

    player x: we will need friends in Canada come June

    player x: QK off

    coach: check

    coach: check

    coach: check

    coach: check

    player x: JJ

    coach: thats why u check that last hand

    player x: now* I knoow

    coach: raise to 450

    player x: sorry

    coach: its ok dont do it again tho

    coach: or i cant help

    coach: ur hand.......

    player x: 5* 10 off

    coach: fol;d

    player x: 22

    player x: lol

    coach: call

    coach: check/fold

    player x: 22 again

    coach: call

    coach: bet 200

    coach: u know u can type ur bet in

    player x: 89* off

    coach: fold

    coach: there is a* differance form 200 and 300

    coach: trust me

    player x: I do* master

    player x: AJ off

    coach: call

    coach: the 150

    coach: fold

    coach: u got to fold it

    player x: thanx I was day dreaming

    coach: dam fight at pacers game

    player x: had 3 10 off

    coach: ok

    player x: 10 K off

    coach: limp

    coach: check

    player x: 10h

    coach: check

    coach: call

    player x: sorry had to fold

    coach: no u dint

    player x: break* lol

    coach: got to do what i say for now on if u want my help, i cant help when u dont listin

    player x: I would of lost ...brb

    coach: not the point,

    player x: my $40

    player x: but ok

    coach: was fight at pacers game

    coach: not a big fight tho

    player x: what channel

    coach: 1 player ejected

    coach: FSN i dont think u get it

    coach: FOX SPORTS in XXXX

    player x: not on here

    coach: its a local network

    player x: AQ off

    coach: raise to 500

    player x: she luvs her BS

    player x: 3c Kc

    coach: check

    coach: check

    coach: fold

    player x: 9c Jc

    coach: fold

    player x: 3 J off

    coach: fold

    player x: 2 6 off

    coach: fold

    coach: Player x

    player x: had 2 J off

    coach: dont madder, tell me when its JENS BB

    player x: 2 6

    coach: fold

    coach: have to tell me ur hand on JENS BB and NICC every time

    player x: I needed no help

    player x: 2 Q off then

    player x: now KK

    coach: raise to 500

    coach: or 600 if u perfer lol

    coach: thats a little to mush

    player x: 7 9 off

    coach: fold

    coach: rasing more then 600 there is a mistake with KK

    player x: had 3 10 off

    player x: 10 Ace now

    coach: raise to 600

    player x: off

    coach: do it

    coach: 600

    coach: Player x, wtf

    coach: the amont madders

    player x: 5h 6h

    coach: fold

    coach: FOLD

    coach: dont ever min rasie!

    player x: ok* teacher

    player x: 3 7 off

    coach: fold

    coach: next hand if everyone fold to u raise JENS BB to 750

    player x: ok

    coach: next hand

    coach: JENS BB

    player x: A 8 off

    coach: rasie to 750

    player x: QJ off

    coach: call

    coach: fold

    player x: 6 10 off

    coach: fold

    player x: 8 J off

    player x: last

    coach: fold

    coach: this hand......

    player x: AK hsuited

    coach: raise to 750

    coach: u know 750 and 900 are differant

    player x: K 6 off

    coach: fold

    player x: You need to push harder on these fucks

    coach: its coming trust me

    player x: we wil cash

    coach: i will find the right spot for u

    player x: that was 9 J off

    coach: ok

    player x: AJ off

    coach: ok lets see what happens

    player x: Ac Jd

    coach: hand on

    coach: hang on

    coach: seeing what they do

    coach: lol

    coach: that was easy hand ot play

    player x: 10 K off

    player x: Kc10d

    coach: ok

    coach: i got to see waht they do first

    coach: call the 150

    coach: check

    coach: call

    coach: check

    coach: check

    player x: lol

    coach: check it

    coach: bet allin

    coach: ALL IN

    coach: there u go nh

    player x: lool Woot

    player x: had 4 J off

    coach: ok

    player x: Im first now

    coach: only madders where u finish

    coach: lol

    coach: knew u were gonna do that

    coach: eventually

    player x: 5 8

    player x: suited

    coach: fold

    player x: Ace 6 off

    coach: fold

    player x: it was 2 7 off

    coach: lol ok

    coach: u should have went all in with 7-2

    coach: joke

    player x: 3 6 off* now

    coach: fold

    player x: it was better than 2 7

    player x: 55

    coach: call

    coach: call that

    coach: CALL

    player x: lol

    coach: ur hand......

    player x: 7 J off

    coach: fold

    player x: KK

    coach: raise to 1200

    coach: obv call if he goes all in

    player x: 35 off

    coach: fold

    coach: abes is getting ready to blow up

    player x: lol** yup

    player x: 7h Qh

    coach: fold

    coach: u probally should have showed those kings, show ur good hands only if u show

    player x: ,k

    player x: As Jc

    coach: raise to 1100

    player x: 5* 10 off

    coach: fold

    coach: player x latter when the blinds get higher ur gonna have to raise exacly what i tell u i tell u 1100 means 1100 not 1200, its gonna madder trust me

    coach: pacers sure suck........

    coach: top 3 or 4 get paid?

    player x: I hate B bal***

    player x: 8 9 off

    coach: fold

    coach: top 3 or 4 get paid in this ????//

    player x: 78 off

    coach: call

    coach: check

    coach: raise to 1800

    coach: no player x

    coach: player x

    coach: come on man got to lisen

    coach: um player x can u hadle this or what

    player x: he was on my team* I know him

    coach: i know him to

    coach: XXX

    coach: i know how he plays n

    coach: no freinds here

    player x: 8d Jd

    coach: bet 1600

    player x: 6c 9c

    coach: fold

    coach: Stay Foucus

    coach: do as i say and u can win

    coach: ur hand......

    player x: thats why you are hee

    player x: here

    coach: player x u cant be help

    coach: u got to tell me ur hand on JENS BB!!!!!!1

    player x: 4 K off

    coach: fold

    coach: every time on her bb tell me ur hand even 2-7 off

    coach: try to tell me ur hand every time now that the blinds are high

    player x: had 9 10 off

    coach: and wait for me to responed u could have won that pot ealier vs Paul

    coach: that was 2400 chips

    coach: ur hand........

    player x: As 5c

    coach: fold

    coach: shes a nit

    player x: I know she is

    player x: A 9 off

    coach: limp

    coach: check

    coach: hmm

    coach: call

    coach: Call

    coach: check

    coach: Call her all in

    coach: check

    coach: nh

    coach: u can win if u keep lisiting to me stay foucus

    player x: ty** I* would of played it same way....maybe would of raised aftr turn

    player x: 4h 5h

    coach: fold

    coach: dam

    coach: wanted jen to stay

    coach: ur hand

    player x: 7c 9c

    coach: fold

    player x: KJ off

    coach: raise to 2100

    coach: player x there is a differance

    player x: I know

    coach: if ezz went all in there u whould of had to fold and could have saved 400 chips

    player x: Ac 2c

    coach: limp

    coach: bet 1600

    player x: 2 Qoff

    coach: fold

    coach: try to type ur hand in asap

    coach: i need a restroom break lol

    player x: Ive been drinkin all day

    coach: does the top 3 or 4 get paid??

    coach: ur hand.....

    player x: 8 10 off

    coach: fold

    player x: 5 8 off

    coach: fold

    player x: third gets paid

    coach: ok

    player x: 2 9 off

    coach: fold

    coach: whats first place all together?

    player x: not sure 3 dropped out* no update

    coach: ok

    player x: $160 added all I know

    player x: 68 off

    coach: fold

    coach: at this point try to tell me ur hand every hand now

    player x: 5 9

    coach: fold

    player x: suited

    coach: fold

    coach: u should deffenly cash

    coach: glad abes is gone

    player x: I really want first

    player x: 4 K off

    coach: fold

    coach: do as i say and u got 80% chance of winning at this point

    player x: we

    coach: probally more like 75%

    coach: lol

    player x: close enough

    player x: brb!

    coach: try to enter hands asap

    player x: Q5 off

    coach: fold

    coach: .........

    player x: 2 8

    coach: fold

    coach: dont talk to them

    player x: 2 Q off

    coach: fold

    player x: 3 9 off

    coach: rasie to 2.5K

    coach: bet 2K

    coachlayer x ur gonna lose playing like that

    coach: never min raise make it 3K if u cant do 2.5K

    coach: dont Min raise it will kill u

    player x: oops ment to** hit wrong button

    coach: ur hand.......

    player x: 10 Q opff

    coach: fold

    player x: I have fat fingers

    coach: please dont min rasie again its bad play

    coach: 2,500 is a good amont at this level

    player x: I'm tryin boy

    coach: ??/

    player x: 9 K off

    coach: why are u rasing

    player x: thats why

    coach: ur gonna get caught rasing utg

    player x: 7 8 off

    coach: and ur gonna lose chips playign like that

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 4 10 off

    coach: ok limp in

    coach: if they rasie fold

    coach: AJ off

    coach: my bad

    player x: 34 off

    coach: fold

    coach: that AJ hand was really close call

    player x: 3 7 off thr

    coach: ok

    player x: 10c Qd

    coach: limp

    coach: bet 1.5K

    coach: 1,500

    coach: or 2k

    coach: fold

    coach: ur not gonna win every hand

    player x: 6 10 that time

    player x: off

    coach: ok

    player x: 9s 10s

    coach: fold

    player x: 25

    coach: call

    coach: check

    coach: check

    coach: check

    coach: fold

    player x: 3c 6c

    coach: fold

    player x: Q 9 off

    coach: fold

    player x: Q 6

    coach: fold

    player x: 8c Jc

    coach: fold

    player x: 9 J off

    coach: fold

    player x: pealjam only 1 Im worried about

    player x: had Q 4 off

    coach: ok

    player x: 34 off

    coach: fold

    player x: Ad 6d

    coach: all in

    player x: Q 9 off

    coach: fold

    coach: this is gonna be tought hope to get u in top3 atleast

    player x: 7 8 off

    coach: fold

    player x: 24 off

    coach: fold

    player x: had 24

    coach: player x dont fold ur SB

    coach: u can trust me

    coach: u have to call

    player x: 24 off?

    coach: ur hand.......

    player x: jk suited

    coach: pot

    coach: rasie pot

    coach: yes even with 2-4

    player x: 8h Qh

    coach: fold

    player x: BS

    player x: AQ off

    coach: raise

    coach: 4500 dont madder

    player x: Q 7

    coach: call

    player x: Qd 7d

    coach: bet 1500

    player x: J K off

    coach: call

    coach: check

    coach: bet 3K

    player x: 66

    coach: fold

    coach: FOLD

    player x: ?

    coach: fold it

    coach: FOLD IT

    coach: CC utg has a big hand

    coach: u dont want to get into a race

    player x: with CC would* be fun

    coach: not till u make the money

    coach: tell me ur hands faster

    player x: 3* J?

    coach: call

    coach: what u got?/

    player x: 3 J

    coach: fold i fu got trash

    coach: fold

    coach: fold

    coach: .....

    coach: ur hand

    coach: Player x

    coach: stop folding ur SB

    player x: had 3 8

    coach: i know what im doing

    player x: Q 2

    coach: fold

    player x: see* most of the time I would do same as you

    coach: ur hand........

    player x: 4 10 off

    coach: call

    coach: check

    coach: call

    coach: happens

    player x: K2

    coach: all in

    coach: gg u got close

    coach: blinds so high

    coach: got to be aggsive to win good night

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    LP championship qualilfer april 25, 2010



    coach: tell me every hand

    player x: I will ,so probem

    player x: wow,Im seated

    coach: do u have a promble typeing in ur bet amonts or should i keep them like 3xbb

    player x: keep them 3x

    coach: ok

    coach: even tho like if the blinds are 100/200 , 550 is better then 600 but ill keep them porpotional to the blinds it is a small disavantage tho

    player x: ok I will try

    player x: brb* ,need a drink

    coach: so do u want me to keep the bets like 3xbb, or give u an amont to bet?

    coach: ill keep them blind porpotal for u lol

    coach: u cant handle typing in a bet

    coach: know everyone at ur table except BMo

    player x: tell me bet** I will try

    coach: ok

    player x: 23 off

    coach: fold

    coach: intill the blinds get bigger just fold ur really bad hands with out tell me is fine

    coach: if ur not in a blind

    player x: I will still tell

    coach: ok thats fine

    coach: you got jen in a good spot

    player x: so you will know

    player x: 8 Koff

    player x: A3 off

    coach: fold

    player x: 3d 6d

    coach: check

    coach: check

    player x: lol

    coach: do it

    coach: pot

    player x: 2 8 off

    coach: ok

    coach: fold

    player x: 8d 2h

    coach: fold

    coach: lol

    player x: se

    coach: u cant call a raise with 8-2 off

    player x: lol

    player x: 8h Qc

    coach: fold

    player x: A 2 off

    coach: fold

    player x: Ac

    player x: lol* shew

    player x: man,I can't see* K 3 off

    coach: fold

    player x: Kd 3h

    coach: what does that red circle next to players names mean?

    player x: 7s Js

    coach: fold


    player x: what red circle

    coach: do u see 1 next to msdebbies

    coach: i do

    coach: to the left of her name

    player x: not here

    coach: oh

    coach: that helps to know

    player x: offline

    player x: 23 off

    coach: fold

    coach: only top 3 get paid

    player x: yea in all of the Qualifiers

    player x: need a xxxx this week or next to play all

    player x: 78 off

    coach: fold

    coach: wow dint know that

    player x: we will be ok

    coach: should

    player x: need a xxxx once in four weeks

    player x: 4 8 off

    coach: ok

    player x: 4 8 off?

    player x: fold?

    coach: check

    coach: ur in bb

    coach:

    coach: check

    coach: fold

    player x: BMO?

    coach: FOLD

    coach: do u know who BMo is?

    player x: yup

    player x: A 3* off black

    coach: 90

    player x: c s

    player x: lol

    player x: 9d 10s

    coach: call

    player x: fold?

    coach: yea

    player x: Ah Qh

    coach: 120

    player x: if I raise they fold by the way

    player x: Ac 4c

    coach: fold

    coach: i know ill have u stealing blinds later

    player x: Ah Kh

    coach: 90

    coach: call

    coach: check

    coach: CHECK/FOLD

    coach: FOLD

    player x: fold?

    coach: YES

    coach: ace high no good

    player x: 22

    coach: call

    coach: fold

    player x: 2 9 off

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 2 8 off

    coach: ok

    player x: 2h 8s

    player x: lol* poof

    coach: check

    coach: CHECK

    coach: CHECK

    coach: BET 90

    coach: CALL THAT

    player x: no

    coach: U HAD AN 8?

    player x: BMAO* its ok

    player x: 35 off

    coach: CALL 15

    coach: CHECK

    coach: FOLD

    player x: QK off

    coach: 150

    player x: red black

    player x: 55

    coach: CALL

    player x: would anyway

    player x: lol

    player x: tricky

    coach: CHECK

    player x: all in

    coach: NO

    coach: WAIT

    coach: HANG ON

    coach: 500

    player x: ?

    coach: MAKE IT 500

    player x: 2 much

    coach: FLUSH DRAWS OUT THERE

    player x: JK off

    coach: CALL 50

    coach: BET 100-

    coach: um i woundt show

    player x: 23 off folding

    coach: fold

    coach: dont show a bluffish hand

    coach: dont show the bluffs man

    player x: 7 10 off that time

    coach: k

    player x: their notes say I only raise with good shit

    coach: im aware

    player x: 5 Q off

    coach: fold

    coach: ill have u stealing blinds later

    coach: XXX is easy

    coach: lol

    coach: they need to think ur a tight player

    player x: your style and mine are very different

    player x: duh?

    coach: so dont show any bluffs

    player x: 5 10 h

    coach: fold

    coach: long ass game no 1 out

    player x: tight* very good players

    coach: these are not very good players lol

    player x: tht

    player x: tight

    coach: i know

    coach: ive played against these people

    player x: 8d Kd

    coach: call 25

    coach: FOLD

    coach: FOLD

    player x: to BMO?

    coach: yes

    coach: JEN LIMPED UTG

    player x: AcKc

    player x: tough

    coach: 200

    player x: 5s Qs

    coach: FOLD

    player x: Im second now

    coach: its early

    player x: yup

    coach: i reconmend u show ur good hands

    coach: like the ak's

    player x: 3 K off

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 3d 4h

    coachl: FOLD

    player x: every hand Ib would of played the same

    player x: Qs Ks

    coach: CALL

    player x: XXX used to help me

    player x: XXX is dead

    coach: CHECK

    player x: fold

    coach: FOLD

    coach: they are dead?

    player x: might as well be

    player x: 10 10

    coach: 300

    player x: 8s9s

    coach: FOLD

    coach: FOLD

    coach: ITS JEN

    coach: FOLD

    player x: lol Jen

    coach: SHE HAD AA OR KK

    player x: 23 off

    coach: CALL 50

    coach: CHECK

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 3c Jc

    coach: FOLD

    player x: Ks 5h

    coach: FOLD

    player x: blinds go up* players wil fall

    coach: TELL ME ALL UR HANDS NOW

    player x: 3 9 off folded

    player x: A J off]

    coach: K

    coach: I WOULD OF HAD U LIMP

    coach: BET 200

    player x: ?

    coach: HANG

    coach: 400 TOTAL

    coach: CHECK

    coach: CHECK

    player x: lol

    player x: 4s 6s

    coach: FOLD

    coach: U COULD OF EASY WENT BROKE ON THAT FLOP

    player x: why I played slow

    player x: \7 10

    coach: FOLD

    player x: suited tho

    player x: hearts

    coach: NOT WORTH IT

    coach: ...

    coach: UR HAND

    player x: 9 aaaaaaaj hs

    coach: CALL

    coach: WHAT U HAVE

    coach: 9 A?

    coach: CHECK

    player x: 9Jh

    coach: CHCK

    player x: 9h Jh

    coach: CHECK

    coach: OK

    coach: CHECK

    coach: CHECK

    coach: FOLD

    coach: IF HE BETS

    player x: Ad 8c

    coach: CALL

    coach: CALL UR SB

    player x: oops

    coach: FAST, WHATS UR HAND

    player x: KK

    coach: 450

    player x: c d

    coach: u can show that

    coach: lol

    coach: what u got

    player x: 8 10 off

    coach: fold

    coach: show ur kings next time

    player x: ok

    coach: fucking BMo loose player

    coach: lol

    player x: godd

    player x: player

    coach: ive been watching him

    coach: ur hand

    player x: 4h Qh

    coach: fold

    coach: lol msdebbie showed up

    coachl: ur hand

    player x: 2 Q off

    coach: fold

    coach: lol trash talking BMo lol

    coach: ur hand quick

    player x: 3 6

    coach: fold

    player x: BMO** spick?

    player x: lol

    coach: ur hand

    player x: trash?

    player x: 8h 9h

    coach: call

    coach: check

    coach: check it

    coach: check

    coach: check it

    player x: lopl

    player x: 7 Koff

    coach: call

    coach: CHECK

    coach: CHECK

    coach: fold

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 2s 10s

    coach: fold

    coach: break

    player x: brb

    player x: lol* shjew

    coach: ur hand

    player x: 7 K off

    coach: 550

    player x: oops

    coach: UR HAND

    player x: lol* 23 off

    coach: OK QUICKER

    player x: 10d As

    coach: CALL

    player x: XXX is teasing me

    coach: CALL

    coach: CALL

    player x: ?

    coach: CALL

    coach: U HAVE AN 10?

    coach: U HAVE AN 10 RIGHT?

    player x: A 10

    coach: 600 TOTAL

    coach: UR HAND.

    player x: 3 8

    coach: FOLD

    coach: UR SITTING OUT?

    coach: UR HAND

    player x: Im playin slow

    player x: I luv hese guys

    coach: TELL ME UR HANDS QUICK

    player x: had 27 off

    player x: ok?

    coach: OK

    player x: 3h 9h

    coach: CALL

    player x: 39

    coach: U SHOULD HAVE CALLED

    player x: 2h 4h

    coach: FOLD

    player x: see

    coach: u to to call ur small blind

    coach: dont fold that again man

    coach: ur hand

    player x: not there

    coach: u have to man

    coach: ur hnad

    player x: 2 8 off

    coach: fold

    player x: lol* duh

    coach: never assume anything

    player x: lol

    coach: ur hand

    player x: 8 Q off

    coach: fold

    coach: be foucus and stay quick

    player x: I am

    coach: dont fold ur dam small blind either

    player x: had to there

    coach: no u dint trust me

    coach: i know what im doing

    coach: ur hand

    player x: 3 J off?

    coach: fold

    player x: Duh?

    coach: im gonna have u still blinds in good spots tho

    coach: with any 2 cards

    coach: this is not abc poker

    player x: yes it is LPI?

    coach: ur hand

    player x: 7d Jd

    coach: call

    coach: check

    coach: ALL IN

    coach: ALL IN

    player x: lol

    coach: xxxx the sucker

    coach: ur hand

    player x: 4 K off

    coach: call the 100

    coach: check

    player x: that was fun

    coach: check

    coach: check/fold

    player x: lol xxx is A donk

    player x: lol*** ty coach

    coach: arrgh bad table spot

    coach: lol

    coach: ur hand

    player x: JQ off

    player x: black

    coach: ok

    coach: lol that was easy

    player x: 79 off

    coach: fold

    player x: red

    player x: 4d 8h

    coach: fold

    coach: fold

    coach: idiot

    coach: lol

    coach: knew u do that

    coach: lol

    player x: 5 8

    coach: folf

    player x: 8 Q off

    coach: fold

    player x: 6 8 off

    coach: fold

    player x: 10 10

    coach: 900

    coach: call that

    player x: 9 Q off

    coach: fold

    player x: 2 5 off

    coach: fold

    player x: 5 7 off

    coach: call the 150

    coach: bet 500

    coach: dont show

    coach: wtf

    player x: y?

    coach: then u wont be able to bluff later

    coach: showing that hand just hurt you alot man

    player x: had 2 J

    player x: 3 J now

    coach: fold

    coach: NOW U WONT BE ABLE TO BLUFF SIPO AT ALL

    coach: THATS GONNA COST U CHIPS

    player x: sipo is a fool

    coach: that hand cost u trust em

    coach: ur hand

    player x: K 6 off

    coach: fold

    coach: dont show any more bluffs

    coach: god

    player x: ok

    coach: only show good hands

    player x: 4 10 hearts

    coach: fold

    player x: 7 8 off

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 10 Q off

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 5 10* off

    coach: FOLD

    coach: 1200

    coach: ANY 2

    coach: 1200

    player x: 45 clubs

    coach: 1200

    player x: 4 6 suited

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 6s Ks

    coach: FOLD

    player x: need to place XXXX to qualify

    coach: UR HAND

    player x: 5 K off

    coach: K

    coach: UR HAND

    player x: 5 7 off

    coach: CALL 200

    player x: no

    coach: CALL

    coach: 200 CALL

    coach: BET 800

    player x: lolok

    player x: 89 off

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 7 10 off

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 3 j

    coach: CHECK

    coach: CHECK

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 6 Q off

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 10 K off

    coach: CALL

    player x: red

    coach: CALL

    coach: CALL

    coach: CALL

    coach: U HAD TO

    player x: lol knew he had me

    coach: HE GOT LUCKY ON TURN

    player x: 2* 90 then

    player x: fu

    coach: UR HAND

    player x: Fuck you

    player x: had 6 K

    coach: UR HAND

    player x: \2 10?

    coach: CALL

    coach: 300

    coach: FOLD

    player x: lol you hurt me then

    player x: 4 Q

    coach: FOLD

    coach: RELAX XXX IS ALOT OF POINTS

    player x: would of fgolded last hand

    player x: have to finish XXX

    coach: NOT WAT MASTRO WAS SAYING ASK HIM

    player x: HAVE TO!

    coach: I WAS READING HIS CHAT

    coach: BASED ON POINTS FOR ALL WEEKS

    player x: JJ

    coach: K

    coach: HE SAID IT WAS BASED ON POINTS FOR ALL 4 WEEKS

    player x: 2 5 h

    coach: OK

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 6 Q s

    coach: FOLD

    coach: QUICKER MAN

    player x: 4 10 off

    coach: FOLD

    player x: had 9 J

    coach: K

    player x: 9 A suited

    coach: CALL THAT BET

    coach: ALL IN

    coach: ALL IN

    coach: DO WHAT U WANT

    coach: UP TO U HERE

    coach: CLOSE

    coach: NH

    player x: 4 J off

    coach: CALL 300

    coach: BET 1200

    player x: 7 Q off

    coach: FOLD

    player x: we need XXXX

    player x: 3 Q off

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 3 Q OFF AGAIN

    coach: CHECK

    coach: CHECK

    coach: check

    coach: check

    player x: 3c 5c

    coach: call 30

    coach: call 300

    coach: check

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 5 Q

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 35

    coach: FOLD

    player x: 27* off

    coach: CHECK

    coach: CHECK

    coach: CHECK

    coach: heart?

    coach: lol

    player x: lol

    coach: CALL

    player x: 10 10

    coach: u too slow man

    player x: 3 Q then

    coach: k

    player x: 8 K* off then

    coach: k

    coach: ur hand

    player x: Ac 4c

    coach: call

    coach: check

    coach: fold

    player x: 9c 10c

    coach: fold

    coach: ur hand

    player x: we made it

    player x: 2 K c

    coach: check

    coach: u still want help?

    coach: up to u

    player x: ??

    coach: all in

    player x: ty gg
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    Everyone has larceny in them, it's just different levels for different people. I'm sure this doesn't suprise many here...or at least shouldn't IMO.

    How sad though.

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    This is the main reason I don’t play here. Perma Ban! ….Both parties.

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    Just glimpsed that conversation. Can't believe this dude need to be told his every move lmao. Personally I just think it's kinda funny and a little bit pathetic

    If he really wanted to help this guy he would just tell him never to raise Shays blinds as she always wake up with QQ or better

    That's it...I'm going evil!

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    this is very disturbing. i can't say i am 100% shocked because i heard of this going on at other poker sites. i'm sad and angry more than anything else. sad because this is "our" poker site, "our" forum and "our" Special Events. we limit participation in these events to members only and over the past three years i have always felt a level of trust playing with and against our fellow members. i am angry because because these two people jeopardized the integrity of not only Special Events but LP itself.

    as Jen said earlier she and i will discuss and i can assure you all there will be consequences. since i have not seen the unedited IM i am not 100% certain who the two players are. i hope that if you are one of the two that you PM me directly and explain yourselves. i also hope that you PM me before i receive the full, unedited text. both players have an opportunity to come clean before any decision is made. i hope you both make the most of that opportunity.
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    I'm shocked people would do this during a huge event here like the two shown. I mean, let's be honest, we know it goes on, but does someone here really need THAT much coaching?? Thats ridiculous and sad. To the player seeking the advice from coach.... maybe it's time to find a new hobby if you are needing advice every single hand.

    Also, to the coach who said this:

    coach: anytime the bb is on Niccivan or Jen let me know what u have no madder what
    you sir, are a fucktard.
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    No, I am not shocked by this...I am understanding "coach" sent the email? Love it that Jen and Nicci scares them...

    What a fucking asswipe!
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    Just sad sad !! Add a little crazy in there and it becomes nuts !! And for shany, hse could waked up with kings rather than queens if she wanted too !

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