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Nobel peace prize-Asnub to Clinton?

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    Nobel peace prize-Asnub to Clinton?

    Barack Obama's Nobel peace prize is snub to Bill Clinton
    Kevin Kolczynski/Reuters)

    Many feel that Bill Clinton, right, deserves the prize more than Obama
    Although the award of the Nobel peace prize to President Barack Obama was widely interpreted as a repudiation of the Republican era of George W Bush, the real snub may have been to Bill Clinton.

    The former Democratic president is widely held to be overdue for the prize. He helped to promote peace in Northern Ireland and devoted more time to achieving a Middle East deal than any other president, although the effort was unsuccessful.

    Since leaving the White House he has created the Clinton Global Initiative to combat problems from Aids to global warming, worked hard on good causes and is the United Nations special envoy to Haiti.

    In August he flew to North Korea, held talks with its leader, Kim Jong-il, and secured the release of two jailed American journalists, Laura Ling and Euna Lee.

    Yet the Nobel committee has overlooked him despite having given the prize to three other Democratic politicians — President Jimmy Carter (in 2002), Al Gore (Clinton’s vice-president, in 2007) and now Obama.

    While Hillary Clinton, the secretary of state, congratulated her boss personally, the usual garrulous Bill Clinton was silent. In Washington the speculation is that the politically correct Nobel committee cannot forgive him his affair with Monica Lewinsky, the White House intern.

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    How about, neither one!!!!

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    Bill Clinton will get the prize eventually.

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    Did Obama deserve it more than Clinton?

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    seeing as how the standards have been lowered, why not
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    The Nobel Prize for Moral Posturing

    So can we all stop taking the Nobel Peace Prize seriously now?

    The news announcement came over my cell phone this morning-I thought it was a joke at first, a headline from The Onion instead of the New York Times-that the recipient of this year's Nobel Peace Prize is Barack Obama.

    For what? What has Obama ever accomplished for the cause of world peace?

    The Nobel Committee says that prize is \"for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.\" Which Obama has accomplished by-what exactly? Giving a speech at the UN?

    Are they giving Obama the prize because he is withdrawing US troops from Iraq? But that drawdown began under the previous administration and is possible only because of choices made by George Bush. Obama has merely continued the natural course of the Bush policies.

    Is it because he has closed down the terrorist prison camp at Guantanamo? Well, he has promised to do so-but his own deadline has passed, and he hasn't done it yet.

    Did Obama get Iran to relinquish its nuclear weapons? No, he has merely started a new round of negotiations whose main effect seems to be to give US support to Russian aid for Iran's uranium enrichment.

    Has he championed the cause of \"democracy\"? Obama has sided with a would-be dictator against the constitution of Honduras, and he just cut off funding for an organization that helps document Iranian human rights abuses.

    Has he achieved peace in Afghanistan? On the most pressing foreign policy issue of his administration-the most immediate issue of war and peace he has so far been called to decide upon-Obama hasn't even made a decision yet. But he's getting the Nobel Peace Prize.

    So I guess it is a joke, after all-a joke by the Nobel committee at its own expense.

    The fact that Obama hasn't actually accomplished anything isn't actually all that unprecedented. When the Nobel committee gave the prize to lifelong terrorist Yasser Arafat, they did not do so because the Oslo Accords were a great success. They did so because the accords were in trouble. Several members of the committee admitted later that their motive in giving the award was to encourage Arafat to stick with the \"peace process.\" It didn't work, of course, and a few years later, Arafat would launch the Second Intifada, importing Iranian explosives to strap to suicide bombers and plunging the Palestinian territories into another round of chaos and bloodshed from which it has yet to emerge.

    The new Nobel is also meant for the same purpose: not to reward something Obama has done, but to influence his future action. Lech Walensa--Nobel recipient in 1983 for facing down the Soviets--put it quite clearly: \"So soon? Too early. He has no contribution so far. He is still at an early stage. He is only beginning to act. This is probably an encouragement for him to act.\"

    This is an attempt by the Nobel committee to play on Obama's vanity in order to influence his decisions on Iran and Afghanistan. The message is: how could you possibly let Israel attack Iran's nuclear facilities, or how could you send an additional 40,000 troops to \"escalate\" the war in Afghanistan-after we've just given you the Nobel Peace Prize?

    In appealing to Obama's moral vanity, they know their man well-and it will probably work.

    In this respect, Obama is the perfect successor to the last American president to win the Nobel: Jimmy Carter. Consider the legacy of Carter's term in office.

    Carter withdrew American support for the shah in Iran, then failed to mount any effectual response to the seizure of the US embassy and its staff-all of which allowed the Ayatollah Khomeini to establish a brutal Islamist regime which has been the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, a supporter of Palestinian terrorism, civil war in Lebanon, and insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, and a regime that has repeatedly murdered and tortured its own citizens.

    By allowing a Communist takeover in Nicaragua, Carter encouraged a legacy of socialist strongmen that is still riling Latin America to this day.

    Carter's weakness in Latin America and Iran also emboldened the Soviets to invade Afghanistan, inaugurating three decades of bloody civil war and providing the proving ground for the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

    So Carter's legacy is three decades of chaos and killing-and the growth of three of today's biggest threats to world peace. Yet Carter is infamous for his haughty, priggish sense of moral superiority.

    This is what the Nobel Peace Prize really stands for: irresponsible moral posturing in the service of the leftist delusion that appeasement will bring peace, when all it really brings is more war.

    Come to think of it, that makes Barack Obama the perfect recipient.
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    I like how Obama is being 'blamed' for this. The guy had nothing to do with it, so let's try not to hold it against him.

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    A lot of experienced observers are amazed that he accepted it. It puts a lot of pressure on him over certain decisions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceboy761 View Post
    I like how Obama is being 'blamed' for this. The guy had nothing to do with it, so let's try not to hold it against him.

    blamed?? i dunno, i have not heard anyone blame obama. just lots of laughter directed at the nobel committee. i actually feel kinda bad for obama because it puts him in a difficult spot before we can determine if he is worthy or not. i was glad to hear that the $1.4 million "prize" was going to charity. (so long as it doesn't go to acorn )
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