Global Nothing and 151 Eastern rivers flooding and the Gila ...

[Moab]

For you Ostriches please explain if we're in Global Cooling and in late winter we're already have 151 Eastern rivers at or over flood stage.

Please read ... Global Warming- Science - The New York Times

Please explain why if were in Global Cooling and that the polar ice shelf melt is giving scientist cause for alarm.

Please for once keep politics out of it and just explain what's going on with the weather.

[bluffmanxx]

funny how the cold weather extremes are dismissied as random irregularities but now moab wants to use a more convienent weather extreme as "evidence" and call people names who hold different views.

moab dear, i think everyone agrees that we have experienced warming (although it's essentially stopped since 1998) it's the CAUSE of the warming and the lies being told about the cause used to enact global regulations that most people have issue with. CO2 is NOT the primary culprit, and all the regulation and CO2 reduction you could ever hope for will have little to no effect on the climate. so why are we still going on about the evils of CO2, especially when we pay only lip service to the single largest way to reduce CO2 emissions?? we simply don't control the climate - it controls us, and if it warms enough it WILL make life very difficult. we need to deal with the effects of a warming earth instead of wasting our time thinking we can control the climate!!

[motherfunky]

temperature doesn't control water levels, cant remember what does could be the moon for all i care. global warming is just another example of how we are ruled by fear. In the past it was the church now it's dodgy Government funded scientists. Its always been the same throughout history, witches, sins, Armageddon, ice age, seriously we used to pay tax on windows and clocks and of course it was all for a good reason.

[DJQ]

funny how the cold weather extremes are dismissied as random irregularities but now moab wants to use a more convienent weather extreme as "evidence" and call people names who hold different views.

Gee, it looked to me like she just asked for oppinions on the cause.

(although it's essentially stopped since 1998)

Really? Could you site your sources?


NASA - NASA Research Finds Last Decade was Warmest on Record, 2009 One of Warmest Years

A new analysis of global surface temperatures by NASA scientists finds the past year was tied for the second warmest since 1880. In the Southern Hemisphere, 2009 was the warmest year on record.

"The contiguous 48 states cover only 1.5 percent of the world area, so the United States' temperature does not affect the global temperature much,"

[maverick35]

Old Mav realizes exactly old Mav no not cares if the whole f**king East Coast due to all the flooding is washed in to the Atlantic Ocean and so except for New York City of course where three 3 million of old Mavs own race and so people live and so old Mav realizes it is weather there wuz a big storm that brought a lota rain and so then there wuz a lota snow the last winter butt this happens from time to time and so do no not be too concerned Moab it is the weather and so just be happy it is New Jersey no not Oregon where u live right RIGHT Moab and so have u Moab ever been in a flood Moab probably no not being a wealthy rich Mormon girl u may escape where as the poor and so middle class need face the weather and so God knows how it is and so old Mav realizes it is no not the end of the entire world and so civilization it is a extreme weather thing that happens from time to time especialy in the East Coast area right RIGHT and so old Mav hopes this answers and so clears up any questions u may have Moab and so go geta your own kayak ready for the Summer 2010 when u Moab may kayak all up down those Oregon rivers right RIGHT Moab cuz u r wealthy rich loaded with money right RIGHT Moab while old Mav lucky geta go to the drop in center and so shoot pool and so play Spades with the African Americans and so staff and so go down town to the local YMCA to exercise and so old Mav has gota sister owns a Condo in Florida butt does she ever invite old Mav down there H*ll no not old Mav may geta a sun tan and so wana eat some Water Melon horrors if old Mav ever gota to do that right RIGHT and so old Mav is lucky they no not take old Mav seriously and so old Mav needs a miracle sorry right... sorry old Mav

[bluffmanxx]

For you Ostriches

using that as an opening comment is a dead giveaway to her opinion on the subject. and why even mention a weather event as proof of climate?? if she really wants opinion on climate change, just ask without pointing to a weather event as justification.

as for the nasa stats - yes the temperatures have stayed warm. there is however little if any additional warming since 1998, hence the warming has "essentially stopped". every year since 1998 has been among the warmest on record, thus the decade is warmer than the 1990's when temps at the beginning of the decade were cooler. ignore the headlines and look at the actual temperature records. compare 1990 - 1999 to 2000 - 2009. one shows steadily increasing temperature, one shows essentially flat temperatures.

from your own link....

The past year was a small fraction of a degree cooler than 2005, the warmest on record, putting 2009 in a virtual tie with a cluster of other years --1998, 2002, 2003, 2006, and 2007 -- for the second warmest on record.

so, we hit a peak in 1998, since then 5 years are about the same (2002, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009) one (2005) is warmer and 5 (1999, 2000, 2001, 2004, 2008) have been cooler.

thanks for providing the information to back up my original statement.

in any case, the global warming alarmists don't want the real issue examined at all. is the recent warming (since a cool period around 1850) natural or man caused.

[Moab]

Actually ... well perhaps you are partly right about CO2. But that's not the real concern. With the artic warming and the perma frost melting large masses of frozen methane gas will be released which will accelerate global warming.

The Ostriches thing is in reference to those that will read this and just bury their heads in the sand pretending it's not happening. Usuall the same people that believe the earth is 6000 years old.

[bluffmanxx]

Usuall the same people that believe the earth is 6000 years old.

and yet another cheap shot.

in any case, there have been many instances when the arctic has been ice free (as well as ice ages) and the earth has survived. in a billion years the earth will be here, humans almost certainly won't. the earth does not care about what form life takes, the climate or even asteroid impacts. it will survive. life on earth has been altered many times and will be again.

the warming climate cycle if it continues will be a challenge for humans. not much we can do but prepare and adapt.

[Moab]

So you are all about human extinction as we know life now?

Back in the time of the dinosaurs (4000 years ago) the planet was much warmer and with a higher concentration of methane. Over the eons (6050 years ago) the planet slowly cooled and the methane became trapped in permafrost and God then created man. 4000 years ago God got mad and flooded all of the earth killing off all dinosaurs cept their little cousins the lizards. All of the ice sheets melted during the global warming and the combination of ice melt and forty days of rain all the earth was flooded. Then God re chilled the ice sheets and all was good.

[jcbuckeye]